The need for Speed

[mraynrand]

For some odd reason I am the only member of the Oren Burks Fan Club. Wanna' be fan #2?

Sure. Wist says he is the worst football player he’s seen at any level. That’s absurd. There’s this kid in pee wee football who Belichick would light up like no one’s business. Kid falls for every fake and has false steps all over the field. Plus his room is messy. Burks still has a chance.

[Cheesehead Craig]

For some odd reason I am the only member of the Oren Burks Fan Club. Wanna' be fan #2?

I was in it as well. We're like the 3 Musketeers, except less like a candy bar.

[George Cumby]

^ Well, Rand is kind of sweet like nougat.

[pbmax]

I am still a fan. Not giving up on high round picks is my hobby.

[run pMc]

I apologize for not sticking to your rigid thread guidelines.

LOL

[run pMc]

I'm optimistic about Burks as well...at least until Week 3. At that point if the wagon hits a pothole I might fly off and land in a mudpuddle.

[Joemailman]

It sounds like you're using the word speed to mean both quickness and straight-line types of speed. I think most people when they hear the word speed think more in the vein of straight line speed.

There's the quick burst speed that you attribute to a RB getting outside or a LB to stop him. And then there's the different type of speed that you're attributing for MVS which is the straight line type.

Yes. Aaron Jones is an explosive player despite average speed for a RB. (4.56 40.). Donald Driver a former high jumper, was explosive in the first 10-15 yards, but had only average deep speed for a WR. MVS on the other hand has the top speed to take the top off a defense.

[Radagast]

As I was rewatching GB's 2016 Wildcard game vs Washington recently, a few things stood out.

First was James Jones and how his downfield threat opened up the middle of the field for shorter 10 to 15 yd gains.

Second was Rookie Preston Smith, now a Packer, tackled Aaron Rodgers in the End Zone for a 2 pt Safety in the 1st qtr.

Third was how an O-Line without Bakhtiari opened holes for Eddie Lacey and James Starks that resulted in a Lacy TD.

Last was how Peppers, Matthews, Perry and others put great pressure on Kirk Cousins.

I mentioned James Jones because his speed downfield was a real key asset for Rodgers and the GB offense. I'm hoping that MVS will be such a downfield threat this season for the Packers.

[Joemailman]

As I was rewatching GB's 2016 Wildcard game vs Washington recently, a few things stood out.

First was James Jones and how his downfield threat opened up the middle of the field for shorter 10 to 15 yd gains.

Second was Rookie Preston Smith, now a Packer, tackled Aaron Rodgers in the End Zone for a 2 pt Safety in the 1st qtr.

Third was how an O-Line without Bakhtiari opened holes for Eddie Lacey and James Starks that resulted in a Lacy TD.

Last was how Peppers, Matthews, Perry and others put great pressure on Kirk Cousins.

I mentioned James Jones because his speed downfield was a real key asset for Rodgers and the GB offense. I'm hoping that MVS will be such a downfield threat this season for the Packers.

James Jones did not have great speed downfield. Jones, with has ability to run great routes, avoid jams and use proper angles proved you can create separation downfield without great speed. Jones lasted until the middle of the 3rd round (and some thought drafting him there was a reach) because he lacked great speed. MVS, and even ESB are much faster than Jones was.

[ThunderDan]

As I was rewatching GB's 2016 Wildcard game vs Washington recently, a few things stood out.

First was James Jones and how his downfield threat opened up the middle of the field for shorter 10 to 15 yd gains.

Second was Rookie Preston Smith, now a Packer, tackled Aaron Rodgers in the End Zone for a 2 pt Safety in the 1st qtr.

Third was how an O-Line without Bakhtiari opened holes for Eddie Lacey and James Starks that resulted in a Lacy TD.

Last was how Peppers, Matthews, Perry and others put great pressure on Kirk Cousins.

I mentioned James Jones because his speed downfield was a real key asset for Rodgers and the GB offense. I'm hoping that MVS will be such a downfield threat this season for the Packers.

Please stick to the topic of this thread. Your second and last sentence were fine. The rest had nothing to do with speed.

[ThunderDan]

James Jones did not have great speed downfield. Jones, with has ability to run great routes, avoid jams and use proper angles proved you can create separation downfield without great speed. Jones lasted until the middle of the 3rd round (and some thought drafting him there was a reach) because he lacked great speed. MVS, and even ESB are much faster than Jones was.

Yup. Jones was the ultimate professional. Used knowledge and great routes to get open.

[George Cumby]

Yup. Jones was the ultimate professional. Used knowledge and great routes to get open.

And he was a fucking bully.

[Radagast]

I never said that James Jones had track star speed, but he was a downfield threat that teams had to respect.

As for respect, Forget U Thunderdan. Now go play with your wooden blocks and stop bothering the adults.

Respect also acts upon defenses to honor the deep threat, which can open other areas of the field for short gain passes and runs. In addition, on some plays WRs are not supposed to go at 100% full speed as that is how the play is designed. That said, gaining yds after the catch can indeed need speed. MVS could just be that deep threat that has not been seen in GB for some time.

[run pMc]

Why
so
serious?

[Radagast]

Serious ?

As opposed to being continually juveniley lame ?

Good humor has it's place, but too many don't know what is and is not in good taste. Elevate your banter, agree to disagree, but wallowing in the gutter gains no one any respect.

Getting back on topic, I recently viewed GB's game last season with Miami. I showed me that Aaron Jones' and MVS's speed will be a great part of the Packers 2019 offense. Alexander should make it to pro bowl status and his speed will get him there.

GB's team speed will, IMO, place GB among the top 5 Defenses in 2019. The FA additions will be the difference over recent past seasons. They greatly improved last season, but they should be building on that as they will start the regular season against the Bears.