DeShone Kizer: Man Without A Country

[pbmax]

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DeShone Kizer. 4 years in league; 4 head coaches, 3 playbooks.

Players would obviously benefit from consistency to help shore up weak areas and further develop talent.

Does it matter than much who the coach is?

Was Rich Gannon ready to be Pro Bowl QB, or was it all Gruden?

[Radagast]

When was it last that this forum's members were satisfied with GB's backup QB. I understand that back to back HOF QBs can make one a bit snobby, but who would you like for a backup QB? Should they scramble the roster and make deep cuts to go after a high priced proven starting QB from another team? Perhaps Payton Manning could be persuaded with enough money to return to football.

What is it you want? or Are you just happiest when you have something to complain about? I hear a lot of bitching, but do you have any solutions?

[Bretsky]

For a while I liked Matt Flynn.

Kizer is better than Scott Tolzien

[Radagast]

For a while I liked Matt Flynn.

Kizer is better than Scott Tolzien

Ok, but that won't stop the complainers. They moan and groan about Rodgers' backup, but can't supply a rational argument on who/how GB should should replace him. In addition, some would still remain unsatisfied even if they were able secure Joe Montana from his prime.

[pbmax]

What is it you want? or Are you just happiest when you have something to complain about? I hear a lot of bitching, but do you have any solutions?

A. Super Bowl
B. Kinda?
C. Draft a QB before the 7th round

[Bretsky]

Ok, but that won't stop the complainers. They moan and groan about Rodgers' backup, but can't supply a rational argument on who/how GB should should replace him. In addition, some would still remain unsatisfied even if they were able secure Joe Montana from his prime.

I rarely complain about a backup QB although I did detest Scott Tolzien (even though I'm a Badger)

I've got plenty of other things to complain about )

[run pMc]

A. Super Bowl
B. Kinda?
C. Draft a QB before the 7th round

That made me laugh.

[Radagast]

A fine piece of humor, but seriously, could any in this forum express what would make them happy with a Backup QB in GB? Anyone is going to be a lesser player than Aaron Rodgers. Also if a QB could be found that would satisfy everyone, where would they find the money to pay for such talent.

[texaspackerbacker]

I have said, and I think others have too, if Aaron Rodgers goes down, the Packers are finished regardless of who the #2 is. Just the same, if it is only for a game or a few games, we ought to be able to beat a few lesser teams with just about anybody who is well prepared and can play not to lose - and that's a matter of coaching.

What we don't need is somebody who goes out and throws interceptions, and I think Kizer has a bit of a history that way.

[pbmax]

A fine piece of humor, but seriously, could any in this forum express what would make them happy with a Backup QB in GB? Anyone is going to be a lesser player than Aaron Rodgers. Also if a QB could be found that would satisfy everyone, where would they find the money to pay for such talent.

Draft him. Done and done.

[MadScientist]

I have said, and I think others have too, if Aaron Rodgers goes down, the Packers are finished regardless of who the #2 is. Just the same, if it is only for a game or a few games, we ought to be able to beat a few lesser teams with just about anybody who is well prepared and can play not to lose - and that's a matter of coaching.

What we don't need is somebody who goes out and throws interceptions, and I think Kizer has a bit of a history that way.

Unfortunately the QB school the Packers used to run in the off-season is no more due to NFL rules. This impacts a backup QB's ability to be fundamentally prepared (particularly in MM's offense), which increases the likelihood of bad reads being made by a backup. Hopefully ML's simplified scheme will help with that. The other issue is arm strength. All the prep in the world can't give a guy like Hundly or Seneca the Elder the arm strength to make certain throws.

It will be interesting to see if Kizer makes reads in ML's offense, although we will have a hard time learning it before the season. I think he might have a chance in a timing offense that actually schemes receivers open.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Unfortunately the QB school the Packers used to run in the off-season is no more due to NFL rules. This impacts a backup QB's ability to be fundamentally prepared (particularly in MM's offense), which increases the likelihood of bad reads being made by a backup. Hopefully ML's simplified scheme will help with that. The other issue is arm strength. All the prep in the world can't give a guy like Hundly or Seneca the Elder the arm strength to make certain throws.

It will be interesting to see if Kizer makes reads in ML's offense, although we will have a hard time learning it before the season. I think he might have a chance in a timing offense that actually schemes receivers open.

That's true. Perhaps the simplification for Kizer will enable his talent to come through.

I do think that teams should be able to do more practices though. That can only help these QBs develop.

[hoosier]

This thread is a cross between Kevin Spacey (Keyser Söze) and Javier Bardem (No County for Old Men). Söze is now damaged goods, hard to envision him suddenly awakening and realizing his potential after three years of ineptitude. Gannon is a good reminder that I could be wrong, past is not always prelude. But something tells me Kizer won't turn into Gannon II. Call it the curse of the Browns: when is the last time a QB who played in Cleveland amounted to something? Or call it the curse of ND: Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Rick Mirer, they're all the same thing.

[Radagast]

Draft him. Done and done.

Draft a QB? I have no problem with that except that to get a Blue Chip QB in the NFL Draft a team must lose big and get a top 5 draft pick or trade away the franchise for a high pick. Any lower picks are more of a real gamble and the chances are better of getting a Kizer than a Luck or Mahomes.

[call_me_ishmael]

QBs have never been better on average. I'll give him a year to develop some consistency in a new system, but in general I just believe he's not a player. It's never been easier to find a good QB let alone a back-up.