DeShone Kizer: Man Without A Country

[texaspackerbacker]

Star college QBs don't always turn into star pros. Neither do mediocre college QBs always end up as mediocre pros.

I'm thinking with Kizer, Boyle, and Wilkins, the Packers are decent at backup QB now. Let's see who stands out in the preseason.

My early guess is that Kizer loses out to Boyle, and that Wilkins sticks on the Practice Squad. I like what I read about Wilkins - just 23 interceptions in college out of 1,114 attempts. That compares to 19 picks in 660 attempts for Kizer.

[MadScientist]

Star college QBs don't always turn into star pros. Neither do mediocre college QBs always end up as mediocre pros.

I'm thinking with Kizer, Boyle, and Wilkins, the Packers are decent at backup QB now. Let's see who stands out in the preseason.

My early guess is that Kizer loses out to Boyle, and that Wilkins sticks on the Practice Squad. I like what I read about Wilkins - just 23 interceptions in college out of 1,114 attempts. That compares to 19 picks in 660 attempts for Kizer.

Hopefully Boyle and Kizer both do very well in preseason so the Packers can ship Kizer for a 6th or 7th. Wilkins does sound like a good practice squad project.

[pbmax]

Draft a QB? I have no problem with that except that to get a Blue Chip QB in the NFL Draft a team must lose big and get a top 5 draft pick or trade away the franchise for a high pick. Any lower picks are more of a real gamble and the chances are better of getting a Kizer than a Luck or Mahomes.

You don't need a sure thing. A developmental guy who you try on for two years.

They brought both Flynn and Brohm in and got one functional backup out of it and it cost them no higher than a second round pick.

If they get lucky like Ted (Rodgers 24th) or Wolf (Favre 2nd round pick by Atlanta traded for a single first rounder) we can rub it in the Bears faces for another decade.

[Zool]

Or Matt Hassleback, or Mark Burnell, or Matt Flynn, or Aaron Brooks, or Kurt Warner. How about a QB that isn't complete shit when put into a game? It's been a good long while since the backup wasn't a tire fire.

[mraynrand]

I think you want a rugged backup with an iron thumb, like Ty Detmer, and a third stringer like TJ Rubley who can think on his feet.

[Radagast]

If GB were lucky enough to hit the bullseye again with the draft or in a trade for a rookie or 2nd yr QB, the odds of getting a 3rd HOF QB in a row are beyond human calculation.

Another thing, how many bitched and complained about Aaron Rodgers as he backed up Favre during his first few NFL seasons.

[mraynrand]

If GB were lucky enough to hit the bullseye again with the draft or in a trade for a rookie or 2nd yr QB, the odds of getting a 3rd HOF QB in a row are beyond human calculation.

There are no odds for such things, not even in Vegas. But common sense and history tells you it's highly unlikely. But keep drafting and developing. And take the risk on a higher level QB a year or two early so you don't have to panic draft and need a rookie QB to lead the team.

[mraynrand]

Maybe TT really wasn't all that good at QB evaluation, and Stubbers wasn't all that great at developing the backup. Maybe letting the offense go to the Rodgers extended offense helped kill the ability of a backup to come in and run the offense. Even so, you can still coach a marginal backup to win a game or two and be completive, if you put your mind to it and your back is against the wall (see Hundley @Pittsburgh).

Maybe the current group will be better. Boyle's progress will tell you a lot. I'm not sure Kizer will ever overcome the hesitancy that leads to all his INTs.

[pbmax]

I think you want a rugged backup with an iron thumb, like Ty Detmer, and a third stringer like TJ Rubley who can think on his feet.

Always wondered if he would have been better with Holmgren and the Packers than he was elsewhere.

[ThunderDan]

Another thing, how many bitched and complained about Aaron Rodgers as he backed up Favre during his first few NFL seasons.

No one did. Favre started all of the games and ARod only got significant playing time in 1 2006 game verses NE in a 35-0 beat down.

Favre got knocked out the game and ARod broke his foot but played the game out.

[Smidgeon]

No one did. Favre started all of the games and ARod only got significant playing time in 1 2006 game verses NE in a 35-0 beat down.

Favre got knocked out the game and ARod broke his foot but played the game out.

You and I certainly remember fans' reactions differently.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

No one did. Favre started all of the games and ARod only got significant playing time in 1 2006 game verses NE in a 35-0 beat down.

Favre got knocked out the game and ARod broke his foot but played the game out.

Actually, the Great Arm of Butte also played 7.5 innings against Dallas in 2007. Almost pulled a 09-20-92 Favre, although that team entered the Big D at 10-1, so Favre wasn’t gonna lose his starting gig had Rodgers won the game in the clutch.

That Dallas game foreshadowed a lot of things. Favre era was moribund. Rodgers’ now defunct futility in the clutch - prior to hitting Jennings for the game winner against the Bears, Butte was 0-8 in the clutch (Jennings was WIDE OPEN against Zona!!).

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think you want a rugged backup with an iron thumb, like Ty Detmer, and a third stringer like TJ Rubley who can think on his feet.

Give me Jimmy McMahon on any given Sunday. Alota Millennials don’t realize that McMahon won a SB backing up Favre.

[pbmax]

No one did. Favre started all of the games and ARod only got significant playing time in 1 2006 game verses NE in a 35-0 beat down.

Favre got knocked out the game and ARod broke his foot but played the game out.

He also played versus the Cowboys and played well (led a mini but failed comeback).

Also the Ravens I think.

[pbmax]

You and I certainly remember fans' reactions differently.

After his first preseason, everyone was down on him because he did not look like Mr. August, Matt Hasselback.

But it was muted because Favre never came out. However, that slow start led a lot of people to think the Packers had lost their mind in 2007. His better outings after that first year never erased the year 1 impression.