2019 Other Games Thread

[texaspackerbacker]

No No No. We do NOT have glaring holes to fill - that was last year when we were in such sad shape at OLB and Safety. We certainly could do like we did when Rodgers fell to us in the draft and take somebody in the next draft. I don't think we will, and even more so, I don't think we should. First of all, the star college QBs don't always translate to star pro QBs, although it's a pretty good bet. Secondly, even though we took most of Rodgers' rookie contract to get make him a starter, that doesn't mean it is necessary or even a good idea. Somebody stated - correctly - in some thread that QBs nowadays are becoming starters, usually good starters earlier in their careers than in the past. Doing that, you get a couple more years on the cheap when you can use your cap money elsewhere. I like that idea. Lastly, we have so many people in here who seem to prefer a run-first type offense; That being the case, maybe it would be logical to go with a game manager or a running QB - somebody like Lamar Alexander.

Regardless, IMO it's way too soon to make a decision or take any draft-type action on this matter.

[pbmax]

No No No. We do NOT have glaring holes to fill - that was last year when we were in such sad shape at OLB and Safety. r.

Still need a OT, ILB and a D Lineman. Though those lineman sure looked better last night.

Is this a week the coordinators get to talk to the press? Maybe Pettine gets the question about run defense last night versus the eagles game.

[run pMc]

Still need a OT, ILB and a D Lineman.

and a WR :P

Re: run D I think Denver found something, Philly copied it, and after that Pettine got it fixed. The bulk of the rushing yards MIN got were on the long run by Cook. Agree it would be good to hear his thoughts. He's a quality DC.

[texaspackerbacker]

Still need a OT, ILB and a D Lineman. Though those lineman sure looked better last night.

Is this a week the coordinators get to talk to the press? Maybe Pettine gets the question about run defense last night versus the eagles game.

It isn't the same. We've had low quality O Lines for a long time - good times and bad our QBs survived on mobility after being rushed horribly, and our running game sputtered most of the time due to poor blocking. It's a little bit better this year, both run blocking and pass blocking. My point, though, is we can get by without having a super quality O Line. 20 years or more of history demonstrates that. Would Aaron Rodgers be better with better pass blocking? Maybe, but it's hard to believe he could be much better. Would Jones and Williams be better with better run blocking? Maybe, but look at Ezekial Elliot and the Cowboy line ...... I don't see that much better quality there even with all those #1 draft picks. And speaking of #1 O Line picks, it is anything but sure a #1 pick is gonna be clearly better than somebody drafted lower. I said last draft, I wanted maybe 2 or 3 O Linemen taken from the 3rd to 6th round. We got one pretty good one. I'll say the same for the next draft.

ILB: We very seldom use more than one at a time; We have Burks who still may develop and be good; It would be a waste to take an ILB before about the 4th round.

As I've said many times, I really don't think we need to draft a WR early. TE on the other hand, maybe. I'm finally coming around to the point of view that Jimmy Graham is barely worth keeping and not worth the money he's paid, and Tonyan probably is not ever gonna be star quality.

I'd probably draft a D Lineman in the 1st round, but I wouldn't call that an urgent need either - not on the level of OLB and S last year. I'd also seriously consider signing a proven quality free agent D Lineman.

What Pettine would probably say is whenever you use scheme to compensate for lesser personnel, you leave something vulnerable, and occasionally, offenses find the vulnerability. If you don't compensate, then the vulnerability is the weak personnel - the D Linemen other than Clark and M. Adams. Is it coincidence that when M. Adams came back, our run defense suddenly got better? Maybe.

Bottom Line: we certainly could draft a QB in the first round, but it wouldn't be wise this soon.

[Fritz]

Huge game for the Leos on Sunday against the Vikes, playing in Detroit City. Can they bounce back, or will they become the SOL - Same Ol' Lions?

[run pMc]

It isn't the same. We've had low quality O Lihnes for a long time - good times and bad our QBs survived on mobility after being rushed horribly, and our running game sputtered most of the time due to poor blocking.

What isn't the same -- the need for QB vs OL? You could say OL can play well into their 30's so they should resign Bulaga, and the OL will be ok. It's not much different from arguing your QB can play until they're 40.
For the record, I'm not suggesting Gute draft someone and replace Rodgers next season. I do think Rodgers still has some good seasons left. I'm thinking they need someone to groom to be Rodgers successor and backup. Boyle is fun, but I have no faith he could win them games with their WR corps as it is. It wouldn't shock me if they kick the QB can down the road a year or two and Gute signed someone like Mariota to backup Rodgers...MLF knows him. After thinking about it, I agree drafting a guy NOW and having him sit most of his first contract is not how teams want to operate, and it's not how some of the more successful teams are doing it currently.

Also, I don't think their OL has been that bad (with the exception of last year's OG issues)... take a look at MIA's or ARI's OL. GB at least has quality OT's, a good C, and a pair of decent G's this year. I'd say they were pretty decent when they had Sitton/Lang or even Taylor/Lang at G. Bahk taking over for Clifton, Bulaga being solid... I don't think OL has been an issue -- at least in pass-pro. Rodgers holds the ball a long time, so many of the sacks and hits he takes are on him. As for running, M3 didn't emphasize it like MLF does, so I expect that's partly why they are better at it.
They aren't world-beaters, but I just don't get the criticism of the OL's performance as bad. I'd think if you considered their performance aggregated over the last 5 seasons it would come out around as #10-15th best.

[run pMc]

Huge game for the Leos on Sunday against the Vikes, playing in Detroit City. Can they bounce back, or will they become the SOL - Same Ol' Lions?

Good question. If they can put the GB loss behind them and use it as fuel they could give a surging MIN team fits. I think MIN wins this though -- Cook is going to give them all kinds of trouble.

[pbmax]

Mahomes looking unlikely to play versus Packers next week.

Denver’s offense isn’t so bad it makes KC’a defense look effective.

[pbmax]

PFF
Noah Fant had 13 drops on 91 catchable passes in his career

He made 4 contested catches the past two seasons total

[mraynrand]

How good is KC’s Spag defense? Who knows when playing Denver? With Flacco as QB, the defensive line knows exactly where he will be on every drop back - about 4-5 yards directly behind center. Just rush to that spot and Flacco will be there. Ugh. Awful football.

[texaspackerbacker]

Mahomes is out 3 weeks minimum, more if there is ligament damage.

[hoosier]

Huge game for the Leos on Sunday against the Vikes, playing in Detroit City. Can they bounce back, or will they become the SOL - Same Ol' Lions?

I always assumed SOL was shit out (of) luck. Then I saw the Same old Lions thing last week. I still like the out o' luck meme. I guess maybe this acronym pulls double duty?

[mraynrand]

I always assumed SOL was shit out (of) luck. Then I saw the Same old Lions thing last week. I still like the out o' luck meme. I guess maybe this acronym pulls double duty?

Surely it’s intentional....

[pbmax]

I always assumed SOL was shit out (of) luck. Then I saw the Same old Lions thing last week. I still like the out o' luck meme. I guess maybe this acronym pulls double duty?

With the Lions, they are often interchangeable.

[mraynrand]

Mahomes is out 3 weeks minimum, more if there is ligament damage.

Favre would lace ‘em up next Sunday. Kids these days....