More Banjo: Week 2 vs. Minnesota

[RashanGary]

Pb,

I think turner got run over once for sure and maybe twice. Did you see more than that? He’s not great as a straight up pocket pass protector, more of an outside zone with those moving pocket kinda guys

[pbmax]

Pb,

I think turner got run over once for sure and maybe twice. Did you see more than that? He’s not great as a straight up pocket pass protector, more of an outside zone with those moving pocket kinda guys

Saw him run over once and pushed back into Rodgers twice. It happens. Rodgers had more time versus the Vikes than the Bears. Could also be home field advantage.

[pbmax]

Did Kevin King actually catch this INT?

I know they changed the catch rule, but doesn't it appear he lost control on the ground? Last slo-mo shot is best.

Forgot the link: https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1173328769618075649

[RashanGary]

Did Kevin King actually catch this INT?

I know they changed the catch rule, but doesn't it appear he lost control on the ground? Last slo-mo shot is best.

It sure was borderline. If they called it a drop on the field, I think it would have stayed a drop. But since they called it a catch..... it stayed that way.

If I had to lean one way or the other, I lean to drop.

[mraynrand]

Did Kevin King actually catch this INT?

I know they changed the catch rule, but doesn't it appear he lost control on the ground? Last slo-mo shot is best.

I can't see a thing

[hoosier]

I say he caught it. Given what his body was doing, the camera angle wasn't great and made it difficult to see exactly when the ball left his hands, but it looks to me like it squirts out behind him after he comes down in the end zone and rolls over. Screen captures:





On a related note, King showed impressive catch up speed on this one. He was trailing Diggs the entire way, starting in mid end zone to left of goal posts and ending up five yards from right sideline. He really turns on the jets once the ball leaves the QBs hand.

[hoosier]

Shit, those dinky images aren't really large enough to see the ball.

[pbmax]

Here: https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1173328769618075649

[hoosier]

NFL rewind has better res, lets you clearly see the ball in has hands after he completes the roll. Not clear why it squirts out.

[mraynrand]

That's a Calvin Johnson catch for sure. I also think they got the Theilen reception correct too.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Clearly a catch.

[RashanGary]

How do you define “through the fall?” I think it was a drop. He didn’t maintain position through the fall. However, once it was called on the field, I wouldn’t have overturned it based on the rules for that. It’s close enough that I can accept either way but if I saw it closely I would have called drop on field. It’s not a horrible Calle either way, it’s just right in that grey spot.

[mraynrand]

How do you define “through the fall?” I think it was a drop. He didn’t maintain position through the fall. However, once it was called on the field, I wouldn’t have overturned it based on the rules for that. It’s close enough that I can accept either way but if I saw it closely I would have called drop on field. It’s not a horrible Calle either way, it’s just right in that grey spot.

I think he pulled it to his chest, possessed it, then hit the ground and was touched (play over), and then the ball came free. I could see someone arguing that he never established control of it; but that's the part you can't overturn, because there doesn't;t appear to be incontrovertible visual evidence. Called the other way, it might be hard to overturn that as well, but more likely, because he did pull the ball to his chest.

[pbmax]

How do you define “through the fall?” I think it was a drop. He didn’t maintain position through the fall. However, once it was called on the field, I wouldn’t have overturned it based on the rules for that. It’s close enough that I can accept either way but if I saw it closely I would have called drop on field. It’s not a horrible Calle either way, it’s just right in that grey spot.

They got rid of the through the ground part of the rule.

[RashanGary]

They got rid of the through the ground part of the rule.

What’s the rule now?