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    the decline of aaron rodgers

    in 2016 (pre right collar bone injury), he was 4th in QB rating (104.2), 4th in yards (4,428), and #1 in TDs (40), 10th in comp % (65.7)

    this year, after 3 games, 13th in QB rating (96.5), 15th in yards, 13th in tds, 22nd in comp % (61.3)

    now you might be saying, "but red, we've played against 2 really good defenses". thats true, but....

    in 2018

    he was 13th in QPR (97.6), 6th in yards (4,412), 13th in TDs (25), 29th in comp% (62.3)

    pre injury and post injury are 2 different QBs
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    Zero turnovers is the only saving grace for him so far. We’re spoiled with that. I’ve only missed 3 games in the first two weeks. I’ve watched every other game. We’re spoiled with the ball security. It’s a really big deal. It’s a big part of why we’re 3-0

    But yeah, he’s not quite back to who he was
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    • #3
      Yeah, I think he's declined to the point where it's safe to say our window has closed. We're not contenders.

      He's a JAG now - a JAG with one hell of a primadonna bad attitude.
      wist

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        Yeah, I think he's declined to the point where it's safe to say our window has closed. We're not contenders.

        He's a JAG now - a JAG with one hell of a primadonna bad attitude.
        Are you back to being excited about Gary now?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by wist43 View Post
          Yeah, I think he's declined to the point where it's safe to say our window has closed. We're not contenders.

          He's a JAG now - a JAG with one hell of a primadonna bad attitude.
          lol
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wist43 View Post
            Yeah, I think he's declined to the point where it's safe to say our window has closed. We're not contenders.

            He's a JAG now - a JAG with one hell of a primadonna bad attitude.
            An alternative view: Rodgers knows he can't do what he did in 2011 and 2014. That's why he's always talking up this defense. He knows that if he doesn't turn the ball over, this defense is good enough that he doesn't have to throw 45 TD passes for this team to win. He remembers that 2010 wasn't one of his best years, but the Packers won the Super Bowl because they had a great defense.

            During the games he sometimes gets frustrated that the offense isn't doing better. But if you listen to his post-game PC's, he seems pretty happy with where this team is.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              An alternative view: Rodgers knows he can't do what he did in 2011 and 2014. That's why he's always talking up this defense. He knows that if he doesn't turn the ball over, this defense is good enough that he doesn't have to throw 45 TD passes for this team to win. He remembers that 2010 wasn't one of his best years, but the Packers won the Super Bowl because they had a great defense.

              During the games he sometimes gets frustrated that the offense isn't doing better. But if you listen to his post-game PC's, he seems pretty happy with where this team is.
              Interesting perspective. The part where this thought breaks down for me is when I see Rodgers try to be super man and hold the ball for so long. I would guess, without any data to back it up, that the quarterbacks that extend the test of time get the ball out quicker and quicker (especially on second and third downs) as they age, where as with Rodgers it seems to be largely the opposite.

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              • #8
                How many wins is it gonna take before all this stupid shit fades away?

                We could go undefeated, and some dumbasses would still be whining about Rodgers.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  During the games he sometimes gets frustrated that the offense isn't doing better. But if you listen to his post-game PC's, he seems pretty happy with where this team is.
                  Listening to his pressers gives me hope that he’s not as bad as he seems. But I don’t know, it’s two full coaching staffs in a row that can’t seem to coach him at all. Maybe the problem isn’t the coaches.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                    Listening to his pressers gives me hope that he’s not as bad as he seems. But I don’t know, it’s two full coaching staffs in a row that can’t seem to coach him at all. Maybe the problem isn’t the coaches.
                    Rodgers isn't at his best. The offense isn't playing great. But this is clearly LaFleur's offense. Most of the deep shots have come off play action. They are obviously running more. Lot of new sets and motion. They are under center a lot. I don't think the question is is whether he can be coached at all.

                    Its a question of what exactly he doesn't like about those second half calls. He does't start the game mad about what they put on the script. Does he think he can't make those throws? Does he think the protection for that set won't hold up? Is he mad they aren't targeting Adams more? Wrong play against the defense called?

                    Whatever the actual fact, I suggest doing whatever they are doing with the first 15 plays. Works better.

                    I did think the script looked more balanced between under center and shotgun. They even ran out of shotgun. That part seems OK.
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                    • #11
                      When he air mailed the pass over Allison's head that's what did it for me. The age, the injuries have caught up to him.

                      I think we could have. And should have won more Superbowls with Ridgers, but TT and MM pushed those years away. If we had a GM like Gute 5 years ago, I think we could have won at least 1 more.
                      wist

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                        When he air mailed the pass over Allison's head that's what did it for me. The age, the injuries have caught up to him.

                        I think we could have. And should have won more Superbowls with Ridgers, but TT and MM pushed those years away. If we had a GM like Gute 5 years ago, I think we could have won at least 1 more.
                        lol

                        You could be right. Gute probably upgrades Bostick
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                        • #13
                          It takes AR 4 games to be himself.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            I did think the script looked more balanced between under center and shotgun. They even ran out of shotgun. That part seems OK.

                            The question comes, is it better to be really great at one thing or pretty good at a bunch of things? I think Lafleur offense gets the OL and RBs and TEs more engaged in playing downhill and hitting the defense. I think it builds a full team atmosphere and empowers a whole bunch of guys.

                            ARs offense empowers Aaron. He’s in complete control of everything. But in some situations it really works.

                            There are defenses that just smother the outside zone offense. So being able to flip script is really helpful. So it’s nice to have.

                            Seeing Aaron bitch about the joint practices cuz it wasn’t helpful for him really struck a bad chord with me. You don’t want your leader to be so damn selfish.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #15
                              Lafleur is building a team atmosphere. AR can’t handle it.
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