the decline of aaron rodgers

[pbmax]

The question comes, is it better to be really great at one thing or pretty good at a bunch of things? I think Lafleur offense gets the OL and RBs and TEs more engaged in playing downhill and hitting the defense. I think it builds a full team atmosphere and empowers a whole bunch of guys.

ARs offense empowers Aaron. He’s in complete control of everything. But in some situations it really works.

There are defenses that just smother the outside zone offense. So being able to flip script is really helpful. So it’s nice to have.

Seeing Aaron bitch about the joint practices cuz it wasn’t helpful for him really struck a bad chord with me. You don’t want your leader to be so damn selfish.

He wasn't being entirely selfish. They stuck to a vanilla scheme, couldn't practice more advanced stuff or do an install. Gute and Flower said this helped evaluate the bottom half of the roster, which is great. But with less and less practice and fewer starters playing in preseason, it did not help them get ready for the season.

[pbmax]

Lafleur is building a team atmosphere. AR can’t handle it.

The team needs to be more talented on offense. Scantron was 6 for 10 on targets. Allison was 1 for 3. That doesn't count the 2 bad throws.

Its good if the Titanic keeps its dining room beautiful and clean. But what they need to succeed is an earlier warning and more lifeboats.

One of the offseason critiques you offered of Rodgers is that he was too ego driven to allow the team to run. Now that has been disproven, you are deadset on driving the ego argument onto another hill.

[mraynrand]

Lafleur is building a team atmosphere. AR can’t handle it.

This goes too far. Rodgers is singing the defenses’ praises. Dude gets hot when the offense isn’t working. That’s always been true. This will likely continue the whole season, even if they keep winning simply because they just don’t have top flight talent across the offense. Rodgers will struggle with that inefficiency and also have to deal with his own decline which will also prevent him running any consistent EO. Hope for a top 5-10 offense rests on staying healthy and a few key players improving in the offense, including Rodgers. Run blocking, slot/TE/checkdown and Exxon being consistent 2 might be enough.

[run pMc]

Agree with pb and rand. I think the offense is still very uneven. I thought there were a few series where it looked like Rodgers basically threw the ball away, and I found myself wondering why GB couldn't string together long drives like DEN was. I think aside from Rodgers, Adams and maybe Jones there isn't much on the offense that scares teams. Until a legit #2 receiving weapon emerges -- Jimmy Graham is hurt and can't separate from coverage or block at this point -- they are going to have trouble consistently moving the ball.
I'd expect a lot of uneven performances from MVS -- he's a 2nd year Day 3 pick -- but I expected more out of Allison. Seemed like he had good chemistry with Rodgers in the past, and he's been very pedestrian. I'd like to see them play Tonyan over Graham, rotate Kumerow in for Allison more, and run some plays that get Vitale on an ILB. He's not a thumper FB type, but dude can run a 4.6 and catch well. This offense is supposed to scheme players open, and either they aren't open, or it's back on Rodgers. Yesterday was a mix of both (the overthrow to Allison was a bad one), but it seemed like it was more on the receivers.

I got the impression Rodgers knows they aren't playing well on offense, and that includes his own performance. I'd expect he's motivated to get better and prove that he can play within a scheme and not be a coach killer.

[gbgary]

It takes AR 4 games to be himself.

despite moments of brilliance he hasn't been himself since...2016 (2015 wasn't great). the rodgers we've seen since then is his true self now. he might be able to change his game but thus far he hasn't shown he wants to the way brady and brees have. holding the ball, looking past open guys, inaccuracy, throw-aways, and sacks, will continue until he does. better weapons will help some. an attitude adjustment/realization of his current skills would help more.

[pbmax]

2015 was a tire fire at times. It was definitely a precursor of what was to come.

Was that the year Jordy was hurt? James "Hoody" Jones comeback year?

[pbmax]

Healthier Rodgers, worse offense. I think you know what we need to do.



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Is it Rodgers, a 35-year-old quarterback who dealt with three serious injuries over the previous six seasons?

2018-Knee
2017-Collarbone
2016-
2015-
2014-Calf
2013-Collarbone

Am I wrong?

[Teamcheez1]

The decline of Ben Roethlisberger.
The decline of Drew Brees.
The decline of Tom Brady.
The decline of Matt Ryan.
The decline of Matthew Stafford.
The decline of Joe Flacco.
The decline of Philip Rivers.
The decline of Kirk Cousins.
The decline of Cam Newton.
The decline of Nick Foles.

Where would you like to stop?

[pbmax]

I think Tom Brady just chews stem cell gum.

[RashanGary]

The team needs to be more talented on offense. Scantron was 6 for 10 on targets. Allison was 1 for 3. That doesn't count the 2 bad throws.

Its good if the Titanic keeps its dining room beautiful and clean. But what they need to succeed is an earlier warning and more lifeboats.

One of the offseason critiques you offered of Rodgers is that he was too ego driven to allow the team to run. Now that has been disproven, you are deadset on driving the ego argument onto another hill.

AR seems to be batting himself. He says the right things for a while but his actions don’t line up.

[gbgary]

I think Tom Brady just chews stem cell gum.

lol

[RashanGary]

2015 was a tire fire at times. It was definitely a precursor of what was to come.

Was that the year Jordy was hurt? James "Hoody" Jones comeback year?

That was the year Sitton/Tretter/Lang stymied the interior DL of whoever we faced and AR got to step up, step back, step up until someone was open. AR likes waiting so it worked for him.

[RashanGary]

I think Tom Brady just chews stem cell gum.

He’s probably found some way to cheat a little

[mraynrand]

Can I make a plea that Terrance Howard be hired as "Receiver route design specialist?" Honestly, there is no way dbs will be able to match up ever again.

[Joemailman]

When he air mailed the pass over Allison's head that's what did it for me. The age, the injuries have caught up to him.

I think we could have. And should have won more Superbowls with Ridgers, but TT and MM pushed those years away. If we had a GM like Gute 5 years ago, I think we could have won at least 1 more.

It was just 6 seasons ago that the Ravens won a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco at QB. Rodgers is as good or better now than Flacco was then. And this Packer defense is better than that Raven defense was. The window isn't closed. Hell, with this defense it's more open now than it has been for a while.