2020 offseason (draft and free agency)

[RashanGary]

23M space

Cut Graham and Lane Taylor. Save 15M

38M space

Resign Martinez 9M

Extend Clark 7M on top of the 10 already on books

Move on from
Bulaga
Mercedes
Tramon
Fackrell
Allison

Free agency
Shaq Thompson ILb 12M


10M of play left over

[RashanGary]

In the draft, later in round 1 you can find receivers and running backs. So I’m hoping for one or the other. Or maybe a TE. I like MVS more as a 3 than a 2 and I like Jones more as a 2 than a 1.

I’ve watched a lot of games this year and Jones isn’t anywhere near a top back.

Chubb
McCaffrey
Cook
Zeke
Jacobs
Mixon
Henry
Ronald Jones (I even like Tampa’s backup more)
Marlon Mack
Gore (grandpa is even better)
McCoy
Kamara
Gurley


Jones is somewhere in the bottom half of starting running backs. MVS is no where near guys like Chark or Godwin or a bunch of these other #2s. We need more on offense. I’d take a TE if it’s a guy like Hock who can catch and block. We just need someone who can help move the ball.

[RashanGary]

Packers defense is better than most but our only quality skill player on offense is Adams. Not good enough.

[pbmax]

Jones is probably, by career average alone, better than 75% of those players. But he may not be in this offense.

Spending a #1 or 2 on a zone, one cut running back is not likely.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Jones is probably, by career average alone, better than 75% of those players. But he may not be in this offense.

Spending a #1 or 2 on a zone, one cut running back is not likely.

So you're saying we're not getting Johnathan Taylor

[Teamcheez1]

23M space

Cut Graham and Lane Taylor. Save 15M

38M space

Resign Martinez 9M

Extend Clark 7M on top of the 10 already on books

Move on from
Bulaga
Mercedes
Tramon
Fackrell
Allison

Free agency
Shaq Thompson ILb 12M


10M of play left over

If you cut Graham and Taylor you gain about $12.9 M - Graham $8.35M, Taylor $4.55M (combined they still have dead cap money totaling $5M). Moving on from both is likely.

Not re-signing Mercedes, Bulaga, and Tramon nets you $16.8M. No dead money as all of these players are free agents.

Fackrell $2.2M and Allison $2.46 M gain you about $4.7M. I can see bringing one or both of these players back on minimal contracts, but both could be on their way out.

So whatever our starting cap available number is, we will gain at least $29.7M with Graham, Taylor, Mercedes, Bulaga, and Tramon not being resigned. Fackrell and Allison would take available funds up to $34.4M.
What is the $23M number from you start at?

Not sure besides Clark and Martinez who else needs to be resigned.

[pbmax]

So you're saying we're not getting Johnathan Taylor

Is he rated that high? I know his numbers and track background suggest he has speed, but when I watch he seems a step slower than explosive.

Love his talent, not sure he's right for this offense.

[bobblehead]

I would not move on from Bulaga if we can get him for a fair deal. Same with Fackrell if he will take backup money. I think drafting a RB and WR in 1/2 is very possible. I also think BPA is the way to go though.

[Patler]

I would like to see them be able to move on from Allison as the second or third receiver, but I won't mind having him on the roster next year. He shows some toughness and Rodgers has always trusted him. I can't imagine he will get much of a contract, unless he has a significant year this year, in which case I would want to keep him anyway.

I expect they will let Bulaga leave, just like they did with Matthews, Perry and Cobb this year. Similar player, very good if healthy, but never really healthy. Some team will probably give Bulaga more than they should, hoping 2020 will be that one year in four that he remains healthy. Anyone hear anything about his current injury?

Taylor isn't that expensive. I could see them keeping him around at least for camp in case they plan to use Turner at RT. Although, long term they might be satisfied with one of Patrick, Pankay or Madison at one of the guards, or even Light at RT. It will be interesting to see what they do if Bulaga is out this week.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Is he rated that high? I know his numbers and track background suggest he has speed, but when I watch he seems a step slower than explosive.

Love his talent, not sure he's right for this offense.

I don't think he's right for us either. He's definitely a first or high 2nd round back, he's getting raved about a lot. He's getting better as a receiver and blocker. He's a sprinter for WI track, so he's got the top end speed and he's made teams pay if he gets a step on a defender.

[call_me_ishmael]

There is a zero percent chance you're resigning Kenny Clark for 7M. He's an 18M/yr guy at least.

I predict they'll keep the Buluga Whale because he's exceptional when he's healthy.

[texaspackerbacker]

I believe he was saying $7M plus the current contract for $10M for Clark.

I suppose unloading Graham and Tramon is the thing to do; Dumping Lewis for sure is good. Allison and Fackrell are ok for the money they make - keep them.

It's virtually always a mistake to draft a RB in the first or second round or even third. Much as I'd like to get Jonathan Taylor, I wouldn't draft him that high, and he won't be there any longer. The same thing usually applies to drafting O Linemen.

I would go all in for O Linemen in agency - two of the best we can possibly afford.

As for the draft, it seems like our other big weakness is D Line. I'd go for the nearest we can find to another Kenny Clark. I wonder if there is any thought of bulking up Gary just a bit, and making him a D Lineman.

We don't need WR help - Valdez-Scantling is gonna be a star; Don't sell short Kumerow; Allison ain't bad; I still have hope for ESB and Lazard.

I wanted a new kicker this season; I still want one next season.

[RashanGary]

Sporttrac has them at 23M next year with guys under contract

I was a little off on the amount saved with Graham and Taylor but close

Clark is already on the books for 10M so I just added 7

Saying Jones is good because of YPC is like saying Fackrell is good for his 10 sack season

[bobblehead]

I believe he was saying $7M plus the current contract for $10M for Clark.

I suppose unloading Graham and Tramon is the thing to do; Dumping Lewis for sure is good. Allison and Fackrell are ok for the money they make - keep them.

It's virtually always a mistake to draft a RB in the first or second round or even third. Much as I'd like to get Jonathan Taylor, I wouldn't draft him that high, and he won't be there any longer. The same thing usually applies to drafting O Linemen.

I would go all in for O Linemen in agency - two of the best we can possibly afford.

As for the draft, it seems like our other big weakness is D Line. I'd go for the nearest we can find to another Kenny Clark. I wonder if there is any thought of bulking up Gary just a bit, and making him a D Lineman.

We don't need WR help - Valdez-Scantling is gonna be a star; Don't sell short Kumerow; Allison ain't bad; I still have hope for ESB and Lazard.

I wanted a new kicker this season; I still want one next season.

Teams that have recently drafted a RB in the first. Patriots and Rams. Teams in last years Owl. Patriots and Rams.

[call_me_ishmael]

Teams that have recently drafted a RB in the first. Patriots and Rams. Teams in last years Owl. Patriots and Rams.

Team loaded with talent from a shitty org perpetually underachieving ala the 49ers of 2010s - Rams.

Team that would have made the Owl without a 1st round RB - Patriots.