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  • #46
    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    The Tex offense: throw or pass


    Either way you would be correct with the play call
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Somebody talked about if Zimmer is fired, he'll get picked up as a DC in a minute; Well, if Kliff Kingsbury is fired by Arizona, I want him for OC and his offensive scheme - not saying it would ever happen, but I'd be happy if it did.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
        I am only a casual fan, but I can't quite figure out why Tonyan isn't getting more snaps and more balls thrown to him. I can remember only three he's had thrown in his direction in the bits and pieces of games I've seen this year, and he's caught two of them. One, in the Philly game, was, I think, his only target, yet he made a tough catch in an important moment. His blocking has also supposedly improved and can't be any worse than Graham's, anyway. Why not give him a bigger chance? He seems ready.
        2 things. It always takes Rodgers a minute to trust young guys. Also, Rodgers has historically not used TE other than on the edge. He is just getting used to looking for it consistently, and now that he is, they are trying to get Graham involved more. As the season wears on I expect Tonyan to take that job and be effective. To run the M4 offense it MUST happen.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #49
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          I would love for Lewis to be the starter and Graham and Tonyan to enter the game as the 2nd TE or for the four or five receiver package. Lewis can still block and give your run game help. He can catch a five yard bail out pass and let the RB release down the field. And right now, that RB releasing is better than Graham I think.

          You stick Tonyan and Graham out there and see if the D changes to a nickel or dime. Then you throw or pass based off that.

          EDIT: Then you throw or run based off that.
          Wow...you sound like another guy on this board who has been saying a TE must be able to do both or its a waste of the position. Show one look and do another. If only we had a duel threat TE and a really good duel threat WR/RB like say Bennett, Cobb and Montgomery....maybe we could confuse teams with that array of talent.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            Wow...you sound like another guy on this board who has been saying a TE must be able to do both or its a waste of the position. Show one look and do another. If only we had a duel threat TE and a really good duel threat WR/RB like say Bennett, Cobb and Montgomery....maybe we could confuse teams with that array of talent.
            Monty had 2 rushes for 1 yard, one target and no reception in the last Jets game. Yet another team that doesn't know how to use this all pro talent.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #51
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              2 things. It always takes Rodgers a minute to trust young guys. Also, Rodgers has historically not used TE other than on the edge. He is just getting used to looking for it consistently, and now that he is, they are trying to get Graham involved more. As the season wears on I expect Tonyan to take that job and be effective. To run the M4 offense it MUST happen.
              Sir, you are my hero. Please allow me to continue to read more inspiring post like this one. I'd say the same things, but my post are considered anti-big parade and yours are respected.

              Please remain the voice of sanity and intelligence that I've grown to admire.

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              • #52
                NBC has Packers taking Jonathan Taylor in their way too early mock draft. I’d be ok with that.

                Top Playmakers
                Adams
                Taylor
                MVS in his 3rd season


                I think that’s enough for Rodgers to make things happen with. A star RB would be ideal for AR to finish out his career with.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                  Graham hasn't been great; He probably hasn't been worth the money he is paid, but it does seem like he gets open better than Tonyan or Lewis and also shows more ability to run after the catch.
                  Graham? Run after the catch? Lol. Dude falls down like a sack of spuds. Pack haven't had a great run after the catch TE since J-Mike.

                  Man, I used to hang with J-Mike: used to bang with J-Mike; even slang with J-Mike. Goddamn I miss J-Mike. To paraphrase Master P.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    Wow...you sound like another guy on this board who has been saying a TE must be able to do both or its a waste of the position. Show one look and do another. If only we had a duel threat TE and a really good duel threat WR/RB like say Bennett, Cobb and Montgomery....maybe we could confuse teams with that array of talent.
                    I’d be OK with one dimensional Graham if he was his old self. But he is now almost as limited a receiver as Lewis.

                    Might as well block better.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Still waiting an answer for how the 422 yards was problematic. You can come up with a half assed critique of any WR corp.
                      A fluke maybe. Besides Adams accounted for most of the recieving yards.

                      Adams can't be counted on to play 16 games in a season, and German Shepherd did absolutely nothing in the offseason - and currently doing absolutely nothing - to upgrade the receiving crops.

                      Wolf signed Rison, for fuck's sake. Get Dez on a plane to Green Bay. Better yet, sigh AB!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        I’d be OK with one dimensional Graham if he was his old self. But he is now almost as limited a receiver as Lewis.

                        Might as well block better.
                        I want Graham and Lewis to duel each other to see who gets a paycheck.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #57
                          Given more game plays, IMO Robert Tonyan Jr. could surpass both Graham and Lewis. However who plays more is decided in darkened rooms where coaches and players study the game and practice videos. From the little I've seen, Tonyan has a truck load of talent and they must know it as well. Roders confidence (or lack of) in a rookie TE could be holding him back. Perhaps he will earn more confidence vs Dallas (week 5). IMO, he is already doing very well on Special Teams.

                          With Adams injured, might we see more 2 TE sets? Let's hope so.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Radagast View Post
                            From the little I've seen, Tonyan has a truck load of talent and they must know it as well.
                            You are saying
                            1. Coaches watch a lot of purpose built film (not TV) to form opinions on players each week. Including practice.

                            2. You have seen him a little bit on TV.

                            3. You think he is talented

                            4. Coaches must agree.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              Somebody talked about if Zimmer is fired, he'll get picked up as a DC in a minute; Well, if Kliff Kingsbury is fired by Arizona, I want him for OC and his offensive scheme - not saying it would ever happen, but I'd be happy if it did.

                              When Zimmer gets fired don't be surprised if MIKE MCCARTHY is their next HC
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                When Zimmer gets fired don't be surprised if MIKE MCCARTHY is their next HC
                                this kind of emotional terrorism is really unappreciated.
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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