The official Packers-Raiders Gameday Thread

[Joemailman]

Has been since they went away from split backs.

Only legacies hanging on are Shanahans. I think Gruden would pass more if he liked his QB more.

Problem is Gruden never seems to like his quarterbacks.

[Zool]

Has been since they went away from split backs.

Only legacies hanging on are Shanahans. I think Gruden would pass more if he liked his QB more.

So is it WCO anymore?

[pbmax]

So is it WCO anymore?

Not really. Reid was the last acolyte you could directly trace to Walsh. Gruden is back but who knows what he wants to do.

But the basic points, route concepts versus zone, it'll always be around. He'd still torture Cover 2.

So the playbook is gone. But the influence (plays and ideas) remain.

[bobblehead]

Not to be a smart-ass, but the only thing the WCO and the Air Coryell have in common is they both are pass-first schemes. In other words, neither Walsh nor Martz ran your preferred blond, bland, obsolete conservative system.

You misunderstand what I want. When I botched about m3 he was calling 9...NINE run plays a game and no....ZERO short passes underneath. It was a disaster. Again, I don't necessarily advocate for one version or the other, simply the theory. Run well and enough. Pass underneath. If they collapse on it pass over the top. It ain't rocket science and u can do it Walsh, shannahan or vermeil style. Doesn't matter.

[texaspackerbacker]

Not to be a smart-ass, but the only thing the WCO and the Air Coryell have in common is they both are pass-first schemes. In other words, neither Walsh nor Martz ran your preferred blond, bland, obsolete conservative system.

Yeah, It would be nice to have a branch off the Coryell or Martz coaching tree.

After Sunday's game, though, it seems like maybe LaFleur is coming around to something resembling that too.

[yetisnowman]

Two thoughts: Rodgers' most impressive stat to me was how balanced the receptions were. Nobody had just one, and nobody had 10 (forget the max). The ball was spread around consistently which is impressive without Adams.

Second, this D is giving up yards, but they tighten at the goal line. I'll take that for now.

The max was 4. Pretty incredible.