More Banjo: Week 9 @ Los Angeles Chargers

[Fritz]

I think it's too soon in the season. I'll wait until there are a few more injuries and things are looking really bad.

[gbgary]

You do realize that the Chargers gave the Packers 4.1 ypc? It wasn't a dominating performance, it was just better than the pass game.

The Packers are Top 10 in the League in offense with that spread crap. That spread crap ran up the score on the Cowboys and the Chiefs. It nearly won back the game against the Eagles.

Even at its worst last year, the Packers offense was mediocre, not terrible. They were never the Browns with Rodgers at QB.

there wasn't as much spread crap in the games adams missed and O dominated. those games more closely resembled the way MLF wants the O to look. if he had his way there'd be even less or none but rodgers, the "i'm only interested in winning now" OC, can't help himself. MLF actually said the game was basically all 2-minute offense. that means rodgers was calling most, if not all, of the plays. i didn't see it but some have said they saw rodgers drawing up routes with adams in the huddle. smh

[pbmax]

there wasn't as much spread crap in the games adams missed and O dominated. those games more closely resembled the way MLF wants the O to look. if he had his way there'd be even less or none but rodgers, the "i'm only interested in winning now" OC, can't help himself. MLF actually said the game was basically all 2-minute offense. that means rodgers was calling most, if not all, of the plays. i didn't see it but some have said they saw rodgers drawing up routes with adams in the huddle. smh

But he is also the guy who has said you need to tailor the offense to the personnel. And the Packers don't run the outside zone well and to do it even above average, you need to take Jones out of the game and put Williams in. TEs being terrible don't help.

McVay isn't running Shanny's offense in LA and Shanahan isn't running the Atlanta offense in San Fran. You work with the talent.

I think most of the second half game plan was a reaction to being down and having no offense at all. As he said, he needs to stick with the plan.

[Fritz]

If he doesn't run Jones and Williams at least 25 times against that awful Panthers' run defense I'll be very disappointed.

If he does run Jones and Williams at least 25 times against that awful Panthers' run defense Tex will be very disappointed.

Someone's going to be very disappointed.

[mraynrand]

If he doesn't run Jones and Williams at least 25 times against that awful Panthers' run defense I'll be very disappointed.

If he does run Jones and Williams at least 25 times against that awful Panthers' run defense Tex will be very disappointed.

Someone's going to be very disappointed.

I just hope it isn’t Jones or Williams.

[Zool]

I hope they don't false start on 3rd down 3 times in the first half.

[3irty1]

That was 2015 Packers-Broncos bad. Rodgers can take his share of the blame but the line couldn't block for shit and the defense couldn't stop anything. Just laid an all around egg. Tom Landry used to say that all good teams get blown out once per year. I guess we hope that is what this was. And at least Minnesota lost.

2015 Broncos was exactly what came to mind for me too. And like 2015 you've got to wonder if this was not just a whoopin on a bad day but an exposure that will become a recipe.

[mraynrand]

2015 Broncos was exactly what came to mind for me too. And like 2015 you've got to wonder if this was not just a whoopin on a bad day but an exposure that will become a recipe.

Not a recipe. Unless the Packers decide they won’t run the ball the rest of the year - or do any of the other alleged crap that derailed them this week.

Of course, that being said, they do have obvious weaknesses, so don’t be shocked when they lose more games and exit the playoffs prob at the Divisional round.

[Fritz]

I wonder if paying more attention to gaps will help them stop the run a bit but would then take away from the disruptiveness of the pass rush.

Those 40+ yard gains are becoming commonplace. It's freaky how easy it is to gain 40 yards on one play against Green Bay. What the hell is that all about?

[texaspackerbacker]

If he doesn't run Jones and Williams at least 25 times against that awful Panthers' run defense I'll be very disappointed.

If he does run Jones and Williams at least 25 times against that awful Panthers' run defense Tex will be very disappointed.

Someone's going to be very disappointed.

Haven't I always said, if the Packers had the Badgers scenario - a dominant O Line, a Great RB, and a mediocre QB, then I'd be all for Run-First.

Well, we are now at 1 out of 3. You could say, bad Run D by the opponent makes our O Line seem something closer to dominant. So yeah, I'd be all for mixing in more runs than usual. 25 times in the game would still seem to be less than half the snaps, assuming we don't turn the ball over or have too many 3 and outs.

The much bigger question mark in this game and in general is, can our D stop anybody?

[beveaux1]

I wonder if paying more attention to gaps will help them stop the run a bit but would then take away from the disruptiveness of the pass rush.

Those 40+ yard gains are becoming commonplace. It's freaky how easy it is to gain 40 yards on one play against Green Bay. What the hell is that all about?

When you play not to lose, this is what you get. We see tentative tackling, shading their man but not covering him, huge holes in the run game with one LB that's expected to stop the explosive play.

Early in the season, the defense did quite a bit of attacking. Now that the offense has been playing better, we play a form of prevent. There are six man boxes with only one LB. We play a lot of zone,
hoping for the interception, but a missed tackle away from a 50 yard gain. Even our man to man is soft. Our DBs play 10 yards off the LOS on a 3rd and 2.

Sometimes, when you try to limit the big play, you can't make the easy play. That's what we're doing and we have too much talent on defense for that to happen.

We need to get back on attack mode. Let's play tight man to man, one deep safety, blitz from anywhere. Make the opposing QB worry about being hit and if he connects with
a receiver that's uncovered, that's a risk we have to take.

I'd rather that than what we've seen the past 5 games, 8 minute drives, never a stop until deep inside the red zone, no punts, and long gainers in zone.

[Harlan Huckleby]

There are articles in WI Journal showing Z Smith handcuffed and arrested for possession of reefer. Can't bring myself to click.

[pbmax]

You cannot be beat playing zone with 50 yard pass plays. You have to be actively screwing up. It’s designed to allow short completions.

I think the amount of zone being reported is an overestimation. If you watch King and Alex, it’s not normally zone.

Down and distance play a role.

[Fritz]

Romo seemed to think the Packers were playing a lot of man to man, and Rivers just picked them apart.

[beveaux1]

You cannot be beat playing zone with 50 yard pass plays. You have to be actively screwing up. It’s designed to allow short completions.

I think the amount of zone being reported is an overestimation. If you watch King and Alex, it’s not normally zone.

Down and distance play a role.

If they’re playing man to man, it’s the softest man to man I’ve ever seen. The defender is trailing the receiver by 3 yards or the receiver catches the ball in the middle with no defender in the picture. I don’t have access to the coaches film, but on a lot of plays we had no defender following a motion man. That usually signifies zone. If Romo said they were mainly playing man to man, that coverage is very puzzling...and very poor.