Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[wist43]

WINNER WINNNER

NEWSFLASH; Capers was not Satan. He was an about average NFL DC. Wondering more and more if Pettine is the same

No B, Capers was, in fact, Satan.

The Latin translation for Capers is Satan, and the aramaic translation for Lucifer is Capers.

I rest my case.

[GB-Brandon]

So I really see 4 guys that I really like with the short area speed(burst) and quickness we lack. These are guys we probably have a shot at. I hope the Packers get two of these guys but at least 1 for sure. This is kinda where I project them. If they got both Reagor and Aiyuk somehow it would make up for the entire draft and my draft vacation in Las Vegas getting cancelled. Our offense would immediately be DEADLY!!! Rodgers would Feast!!

Round 1- Jalen Reagor

Round 2 - Brandon Aiyuk

Round 3 - Quez Watkins

Round 6- Jason Huntley

[GB-Brandon]

Would Capers have even recognized the talent? Ala Casey Heyward and Micah Hyde.

Well the fact that we’re comparing Pettine and Capers isn’t a good sign.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I’d put this guy down for one of our 6th-7th round picks. He is a “Glider”.

https://youtu.be/XpvOJIJJddo

Levante Bellamy is my Jason Huntley. Huntley's RAS is great--although I don't trust Pro Day results as much as combine results. Bellamy is similar to Tyler Ervin or Ito Smith. I'd bet one or both of these guys gets drafted--even though they are graded as UDFAs by most boards.

I was looking at my draft spreadsheets from 2014-2018. Almost every RB with 4.50+ 40, 38" vertical, and 125" broad at the combine got drafted (almost all higher than they were projected). Most of the late round RBs who weren't on anybody's radar (Darius Jackson, Dewayne Washington, Trenton Cannon, Boston Scott) did likewise at their Pro Days. It's pretty clear that GMs value the RAS score at RB.

[GB-Brandon]

This is, in part, valuing pass rush over run stopping and discounting ILB play. Its not just Pettine or Capers. Its the organizational philosophy coming home to roost.

Yep, and that’s why we get called a “finesse team” sometimes. It’s all based on sacks and turnovers which I’ll take but like you said we better have an offense that can strike at will and playing ahead.

[GB-Brandon]

Levante Bellamy is my Jason Huntley. Huntley's RAS is great--although I don't trust Pro Day results as much as combine results. Bellamy is similar to Tyler Ervin or Ito Smith. I'd bet one or both of these guys gets drafted--even though they are graded as UDFAs by most boards.

I was looking at my draft spreadsheets from 2014-2018. Almost every RB with 4.50+ 40, 38" vertical, and 125" broad at the combine got drafted (almost all higher than they were projected). Most of the late round RBs who weren't on anybody's radar (Darius Jackson, Dewayne Washington, Trenton Cannon, Boston Scott) did likewise at their Pro Days. It's pretty clear that GMs value the RAS score at RB.

He kinda reminds me of Thomas Rawls.

Huntley will get drafted for sure. His tape matches his numbers. I believe Huntley to be an upgrade over Ervin.

Here is some good stuff on Huntley. His numbers are GREAT! I’d be all over Huntley and draft him in 6th. He has Aaron Jones type potential.

https://nfldraftrite.com/2020/04/08/stop-sleeping-on-jason-huntley/

[GB-Brandon]

Epenesa would play as a down linemen, totally different position then Gary as an outside linebacker. Epenesa would would play any where from a 5 tech to a 3 tech in base or in the nickel package with only two down linemen.

Everyone can call Gary an OLB but I am not sure he is or will ever be able to play in space required in this scheme. It might be time to count our losses and beef him up and make him a rotational DE.

I know it hurts but I believe that’s all we have. Time will tell but he has miles to improve playing in space as a Packer OLB. Training camp was not pretty.

It was a horrible pick then and it remains a horrible pick now. Tick Tock.

[texaspackerbacker]

WINNER WINNNER

NEWSFLASH; Capers was not Satan. He was an about average NFL DC. Wondering more and more if Pettine is the same

Amen to that.

As for Gary, he seems like he'd be a helluva 4-3 DE if we ever got rid of Pettine and replaced him with a 4-3 guy. You could say the same for both Smiths.

[pbmax]

Would Capers have even recognized the talent? Ala Casey Heyward and Micah Hyde.

I think that was an organizational decision from the top, based on the cap. Capers was guilty of playing guys out of position, but I won't lay the blame at his feet until someone writes a book for Ted that tells me the front office couldn't get M3 and Capers to play these guys at their natural position.

[pbmax]

No B, Capers was, in fact, Satan.

The Latin translation for Capers is Satan, and the aramaic translation for Lucifer is Capers.

I rest my case.

You forgot to translate the other side of the medallion. Which would tell you that capers are a delicious snack.

the cooked and pickled flower bud of a prickly southern European shrub, used to flavor food.

[pbmax]

Andy Herman @AndyHermanNFL

Your current Packers’ offensive linemen under contract in 2021:

Billy Turner
Elgton Jenkins
Lucas Patrick
Cole Madison
Rick Wagner

Now add to that fact Turner & Wagner have outs in their contract & Madison isn’t expected to make the team.

Packers’ draft will be OL HEAVY!!!

DRAFT AN IOWA GUY IN THE FIRST, COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES IN THE FOURTH OR A BADGER IN THE SEVENTH. WHY DO GMs MAKE THIS SO COMPLICATED?

Why is Madison not expected to make the team? What did I miss?

[run pMc]

I think that was an organizational decision from the top, based on the cap. Capers was guilty of playing guys out of position, but I won't lay the blame at his feet until someone writes a book for Ted that tells me the front office couldn't get M3 and Capers to play these guys at their natural position.

But...But...But players out of position is disguise! </sarcasm>

[run pMc]

Packers’ draft will be OL HEAVY!!!

DRAFT AN IOWA GUY IN THE FIRST, COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES IN THE FOURTH OR A BADGER IN THE SEVENTH. WHY DO GMs MAKE THIS SO COMPLICATED?

Why is Madison not expected to make the team? What did I miss?

Madison was a Day 3 pick who took a year off and sounded like he was not exactly a world beater when he came back. I think this is basically the year he has to show something or he's toast, especially if they draft more than one OL -- which I think is a possibility by the way.

Wagner has a 2 year contract which basically means he's a stopgap, Bahktiari and Linsley are FAs, and Turner is meh. There could be a LOT of change on the OL, and if Gute is smart he'll avoid what happened when they lost Wahle/Rivera/Verba.

If it is a good draft for OT's I could see him take one early and another developmental prospect late. Alex Light doesn't inspire confidence, considering they got lucky and plucked a retired by still effective Veldheer to replace him.

[pbmax]

Madison was a Day 3 pick who took a year off and sounded like he was not exactly a world beater when he came back. I think this is basically the year he has to show something or he's toast, especially if they draft more than one OL -- which I think is a possibility by the way.

Wagner has a 2 year contract which basically means he's a stopgap, Bahktiari and Linsley are FAs, and Turner is meh. There could be a LOT of change on the OL, and if Gute is smart he'll avoid what happened when they lost Wahle/Rivera/Verba.

If it is a good draft for OT's I could see him take one early and another developmental prospect late. Alex Light doesn't inspire confidence, considering they got lucky and plucked a retired by still effective Veldheer to replace him.

I thought his camp reviews were OK for someone out of the game for a year. There were even a couple of "he's getting better" mentions. But that might have simply been some kind words thrown to someone who was struggling.

I just didn't think it was a lock he was gone, so I suspected another shoe had dropped.

[GB-Brandon]

I think if he clears medicals Niang is the answer long term at RT. They could draft another one later. Taking college tackles that are just missing something and turning them into productive guards is something the Packer have done well.

Not too worried here.