Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[pbmax]

Amos? I think he was rated as a top 5-10 safety for 2018 by PFF. I don't think he was released either. He was a UFA.

Bears didn't resign him was the point. Worth it on a rookie deal, not worth a second contract.

[run pMc]

Honestly, if the top 5-6 WRs and best OTs are gone, I'd be fine with GB trading down a few picks, drafting Higgins and getting an extra 3rd or 4th for the trouble. There will be good value WRs i those rounds but getting 2 WR picks out of this draft will improve the talent and roster competition considerably. It really depends on how the board plays out. Not sure Higgins will be there at 62 but it would be nice for them to get at least 2 Year-1 starters with their first three picks.

[run pMc]

Amos? I think he was rated as a top 5-10 safety for 2018 by PFF. I don't think he was released either. He was a UFA.

He was a UFA. For a safety with quality starting experience entering his prime he got a decent contract. He's not elite but he's pretty good and a much-needed steadying presence in the secondary.

[GB-Brandon]

Amos was a good signing!!!! He isn’t the problem!!!

The problem is Pettine tries to play light up front with one stud(Kenny Clark).

You have teams like the Seahawks that played a 4-3 base against the Niners and had some success.

Pettine is the problem with his “stubborn schemes”.

[GB-Brandon]

They desperately need another stud up front to play this scheme Pettine likes so I feel DL will be the target early and we’ll probably miss out on Reagor for this “Championship Defense” that they “have to complete”.

Which has basically been a “Ten Year Horror Movie”

[GB-Brandon]

Tee Higgins looked good against Virgina

I like Higgins but his athletic numbers don’t match typically what Gute looks for.

[GB-Brandon]

Epenesa would play as a down linemen, totally different position then Gary as an outside linebacker. Epenesa would would play any where from a 5 tech to a 3 tech in base or in the nickel package with only two down linemen.

I’m more interested in Raekwon Davis and DaVon Hamilton.

[pbmax]

They desperately need another stud up front to play this scheme Pettine likes so I feel DL will be the target early and we’ll probably miss out on Reagor for this “Championship Defense” that they “have to complete”.

Which has basically been a “Ten Year Horror Movie”

This is, in part, valuing pass rush over run stopping and discounting ILB play. Its not just Pettine or Capers. Its the organizational philosophy coming home to roost.

[pbmax]

Amos was a good signing!!!! He isn’t the problem!!!

I agree completely. But that isn't an elite player. He's a good piece and as KYPack would say, "a steady hand".

[Bretsky]

I think its the story of the last decade. But not sending more money in FA 2020 (realizing that it would hurt the cap eventually) left them with more questions than they will be able to address in one draft.

But I think the fact that WR is not just top heavy but deep argues for not staying put and taking a WR unless you get a Top 15 talent to drop. You get a legit high first level talent at WR and I think its worth another year of spit, pine tar and bailing wire for a run defense.

Or get a difference maker at another position of need (OT, DL, ILB). If not, trade down.

Problem with WR is deep so wait is that everyone else is planning to nab a wideout. So there will be a run. And 62 might be late for it. Then you have to hope to get James Jones

If we don't get a WR in round one we need to move up in round two or we'll really be dropping back in terms of getting a difference maker. As much as I like Ceephus, he's not the top WR I'd want

[Bretsky]

One of the problems was that they just drafted guys without thought about how they would fit - then of course Capers did nothing to adapt to the talent he had.

Conversely, look at how the Pats have historically looked at drafting players. They make a Wildass reach of a pick, and everybody slams them; but, they pick players with specific roles in mind, and then coach them and scheme them to succeed in those roles.

It is why I want a guy like Amik Robertson. We desperately need a slot corner... Robertson would be perfect. Don't draft a 6'2" corner who might have upside outside, but then throw him in the slot and expect him to excel.

We've thrown a lot of resources at defense over the years, but those resources have not been well spent. I think Gute and Pettine are on the right track, and the defense has made strides.

And how's Pettine doingi ?

[Bretsky]

This is, in part, valuing pass rush over run stopping and discounting ILB play. Its not just Pettine or Capers. Its the organizational philosophy coming home to roost.

WINNER WINNNER

NEWSFLASH; Capers was not Satan. He was an about average NFL DC. Wondering more and more if Pettine is the same

[GB-Brandon]

WINNER WINNNER

NEWSFLASH; Capers was not Satan. He was an about average NFL DC. Wondering more and more if Pettine is the same

I agree. Capers was working with a lot of “Spare Parts” and got a lot of unfair blame. Over the hill Clay Matthews? Invisible Nick Perry? Invisible Datone Jones? Jerel Worthless? I could go on and on. Add flawed safety play and a bunch of busts in the secondary and I don’t think anyone could of make those defenses winners. It was patchwork at best.

With the current overall talent on defense now I ponder what Capers could do with it. My current confidence level on Pettine is not high. When you have the head coach on the sideline in a playoff game telling you to “Stop the Fu***** Run” and you can’t is a bad look.

[GB-Brandon]

I’d put this guy down for one of our 6th-7th round picks. He is a “Glider”.

https://youtu.be/XpvOJIJJddo

[Sparkey]

I agree. Capers was working with a lot of “Spare Parts” and got a lot of unfair blame. Over the hill Clay Matthews? Invisible Nick Perry? Invisible Datone Jones? Jerel Worthless? I could go on and on. Add flawed safety play and a bunch of busts in the secondary and I don’t think anyone could of make those defenses winners. It was patchwork at best.

With the current overall talent on defense now I ponder what Capers could do with it. My current confidence level on Pettine is not high. When you have the head coach on the sideline in a playoff game telling you to “Stop the Fu***** Run” and you can’t is a bad look.

Would Capers have even recognized the talent? Ala Casey Heyward and Micah Hyde.