Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[Bretsky]

Had sex with 2 women. He claimed it was consensual. I believe they claimed they were too intoxicated to give consent. https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/c...bc8dbb22e.html

People that know me would tell you I always assume the guy is guilty; but not this one. Guilty of bad decisions. But we all are.

[Bretsky]

And JT - no surprise. Cephus seems like a legit good kid. The fact that he’s innocent may cloud his above average skills. I’d take a flyer on him as 4th/5th round with 3rd round talent.

be pretty surprised if he's there for us round 4
I'd take him in 3 if he was there; he'd be our 2nd most talented WR

[Joemailman]

be pretty surprised if he's there for us round 4
I'd take him in 3 if he was there; he'd be our 2nd most talented WR

Given all the publicity his case got in Wisconsin, I'd be surprised if the Packers drafted him. The guy could probably use a change of scenery.

[Bretsky]

Given all the publicity his case got in Wisconsin, I'd be surprised if the Packers drafted him. The guy could probably use a change of scenery.

If our brass did their due diligence they would know that he was a leader within the locker room of that team. Then again, that's what I said a few years ago when we got stuck with the King Biegel

[texaspackerbacker]

He was an excellent college receiver, and I wish he had stuck around, but I really don't think he would help the Packers. We have a glut of receivers like him now - big but not overly fast. We need somebody faster who also can catch - is that too much to ask for?

[run pMc]

I think they pass on Cephus because of the local press coverage. The kid from Minnesota might get a long look though. Either one would likely be the 2nd most talented WR on the roster. They have Adams and a bunch of Day3/UDFAs, which isn't going to cut it.
Even Favre struggled when they had to play Taco Wallace.

As for A.Jones, I wonder if 4y/30M is ballpark? He's 26 and has an injury history.

[call_me_ishmael]

Let's say Tua is sitting there at 5, and you think he is going to be really good.

1. The team at 5 calls and says "we'll give you Tua for a #2 and Aaron". Do you do it?
2. The team at 5 calls and says "we'll give you Tua for #1, #2, #3 and next year's #2". Do you do it?

If Tua really is the guy with the golden arm and a future star, I think you have to do it. I'd try to do the #1 scenario, personally.

[MadScientist]

Let's say Tua is sitting there at 5, and you think he is going to be really good.

1. The team at 5 calls and says "we'll give you Tua for a #2 and Aaron". Do you do it?
2. The team at 5 calls and says "we'll give you Tua for #1, #2, #3 and next year's #2". Do you do it?

If Tua really is the guy with the golden arm and a future star, I think you have to do it. I'd try to do the #1 scenario, personally.

The #1 option would trigger a 40M cap hit. I don't think that would be possible to absorb.
The #2 option would be a brutal hit to affordable production for the next 3-5 years, especially for a guy who will sit for 1-2 years. If he somehow slid to 32 and there was no other first round talent, then sure.

[pbmax]

No. No sure thing with a rookie QB even high in first round. Yo Gabbert Gabbert, Trubinski, Mayfield. You draft one you can develop without selling your soul.

Wolf didn't trade a #1 pick AND Majik.

[RashanGary]

End of round 1 is loaded with good safeties, receivers, corners, interior OL, and high upside DL like Clark who need development.

Its a good year for corners and receivers. I could see one of those.

If it's a corner, you move Alexander to Tramons spot and the secondary is still young but at least it's ridiculously fast and talented l

[RashanGary]

Lazard should be better next year. As should Tonyan and Sternberger. But still, a receiver is a need. Preferably a very fast one to take MVS role.

[texaspackerbacker]

Lazard is damn good already, and yes, he should get better - especially if we get a speed receiver to spread things out more. Tonyan is ok, but I'm not sure he has a very high ceiling - Kittle or Kelce he likely ain't (although Lazard at TE just might me). Sternberger has absolutely stunk, so he couldn't possibly not get better - how much is the question. I wouldn't count on him being a real stand out either, but who knows. Valdez-Scantling IMO has the highest ceiling because of his speed and size. How likely he is to fulfill that potential is anybody's guess, though.

For next season, as I've said a lot of times, Lazard should be switched to TE. So that leaves spots at WR for Adams, MVS, and Kumerow. St. Brown is coming back and probably should get a spot. A lot of people including me would like to see Allison gone. Grant is basically worthless. So adding St. Brown and subtracting Allison and Grant, that is just 4 WRs. Draft a speed burner about the second round, and that still leaves one spot this Begelton guy or maybe Shepherd or maybe another lower round draft pick. If Lazard switches to TE, we would also likely keep Tonyan and Sternberger. I'm assuming Graham is gone and maybe Lewis also, although it's not out of the question to keep 4 TEs.

[RashanGary]

Lazard is damn good already, and yes, he should get better - especially if we get a speed receiver to spread things out more. Tonyan is ok, but I'm not sure he has a very high ceiling - Kittle or Kelce he likely ain't (although Lazard at TE just might me). Sternberger has absolutely stunk, so he couldn't possibly not get better - how much is the question. I wouldn't count on him being a real stand out either, but who knows. Valdez-Scantling IMO has the highest ceiling because of his speed and size. How likely he is to fulfill that potential is anybody's guess, though.

For next season, as I've said a lot of times, Lazard should be switched to TE. So that leaves spots at WR for Adams, MVS, and Kumerow. St. Brown is coming back and probably should get a spot. A lot of people including me would like to see Allison gone. Grant is basically worthless. So adding St. Brown and subtracting Allison and Grant, that is just 4 WRs. Draft a speed burner about the second round, and that still leaves one spot this Begelton guy or maybe Shepherd or maybe another lower round draft pick. If Lazard switches to TE, we would also likely keep Tonyan and Sternberger. I'm assuming Graham is gone and maybe Lewis also, although it's not out of the question to keep 4 TEs.

I wouldn't complain about this Tex. Lazard is lean for a TE and does seem to have just enough get up and go to play WR.

I think Lazard stays put, but I see the possibility too.

[Cleft Crusty]

If Lazard switches to TE, we would also likely keep Tonyan and Sternberger. I'm assuming Graham is gone and maybe Lewis also, although it's not out of the question to keep 4 TEs.

I don't think there is any reason to believe they will switch Lazard to TE. Certainly in camp they could see how he stands up in pass pro to speed rushers or to run blocking OLB and DEs, which is what makes TEs actually TEs, and not glorified WRs. But he's really not that large, and he doesn't have the anchor of an in line blocker, even though his blocking technique is pretty good. So I don't see it, but I do see Sternberger being much stronger next year, and also see him improving on his 100% drop rate. Tonyan can block and is a reliable pass catcher, if not elusive as a route runner. He can be an Ed West type. Marcedes may be at the end, but he's in such good physical condition that I could see them bringing him back - his blocking is totally reliable.

[RashanGary]

That's reasonable cleft. Tonyan probably becomes our new Mercedes. Sternberger our new Graham. Would be nice if one fell to us. We just don't have a good TE under the age of 33 on the roster next year.

But those two young guys had ideal training environment with two of the best tight ends of the last decade in front of them paving the way. They should be serviceable in years 2 and 3.