Never too early 2020 NFL Draft Thread

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bob McGinn

My polling of 17 executives in personnel took place in the last 2 ½ weeks. Each scout was asked to rank the wide receivers on a 1 to 6 basis, with a first-place vote worth 6 points, a second worth 5 and so on.

CeeDee Lamb, with 87 points and 10 first-place votes, nosed out Jerry Jeudy, who had 86 and five. Following, in order, were Henry Ruggs (66, one), Justin Jefferson (28 ½), Tee Higgins (25 ½, one), Bryan Edwards (13), Brandon Aiyuk (12), Laviska Shenault (11), Jalen Reagor (10), KJ Hamler (4 ½), Denzel Mims (four), Lynn Bowden (three), Quez Watkins (three), Van Jefferson (two), Gabriel Davis (one) and Michael Pittman (one-half).

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CeeDee Lamb, with 87 points and 10 first-place votes, nosed out Jerry Jeudy, who had 86 and five. Following, in order, were Henry Ruggs (66, one), Justin Jefferson (28 ½), Tee Higgins (25 ½, one), Bryan Edwards (13), Brandon Aiyuk (12), Laviska Shenault (11), Jalen Reagor (10), KJ Hamler (4 ½), Denzel Mims (four), Lynn Bowden (three), Quez Watkins (three), Van Jefferson (two), Gabriel Davis (one) and Michael Pittman (one-half).

Looks like WR tiers - Lamb through Higgins - R1, Edwards through Raegor as R2 (Top 50), the rest are probably late R2 to early R4.

I like Mims or Jefferson over Hamler, but burners with burst like KJ are uncommon.
Surprised Higgins and Edwards are where they are; I'd almost think all the love Aiyuk was getting would put him higher. I'm betting the core injury he and Shenault both had dropped them considerably. Medicals are going to be very important in the absence of pro days and on-site visits.

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Looks like WR tiers - Lamb through Higgins - R1, Edwards through Raegor as R2 (Top 50), the rest are probably late R2 to early R4.

I like Mims or Jefferson over Hamler, but burners with burst like KJ are uncommon.
Surprised Higgins and Edwards are where they are; I'd almost think all the love Aiyuk was getting would put him higher. I'm betting the core injury he and Shenault both had dropped them considerably. Medicals are going to be very important in the absence of pro days and on-site visits.

I've seen a lot of mocks with the Packers either taking Mims at 30 or moving back and taking Mims or Reagor. Wonder if Packers scouts agree about Mims being bottom third of this tier of 16.

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Evan Silva mock, first round only

1. Cincinnati -Burrow
2. Washington - Young
3. DEEtroit - Okudah
4. NYGiants - Wills
5. Miami - Herbert
6. Clippers - Tagovailoa
7. Carolina - Simmons
8. Arizona - Brown
9. Jacksonville - Kinlaw
10. Cleveland - Thomas
11. NYJets - Wirfs
12. LasVegas - Henderson
13. San Fran - Jeudy
14. Tampa - Becton
15. Denver - Lamb
16. Atlanta - Ruggs
17. Dallas - Terrell (M3 will at least be familiar with a first round pick on D)
18. Miami - Chaisson
19. LasVegas - Love
20. Jacksonville - Johnson
21. Philly - Reagor
22. Minnesota - Mims
23. New England - Epenesa
24. New Orleans - Jefferson
25. Minnesota - Jones
26. Miami - Ruiz
27. Seattle - Cleveland
28. Baltimore - Gross-Matos
29. Tennessee - Wilson
30. Green Bay - Murray
31. San Fran - Blacklock
32. KC - Queen

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Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Ohio State RB J.K. Dobbins video conferences with Texans, Kansas City Chiefs, Green Bay Packers, Buffalo Bills, Detroit Lions, New Orleans Saints, Miami Dolphins

Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Utah DT Leki Fotu @LekiFotu video conferences-calls with 17 teams, including Texans, Eagles, Dolphins, Chargers,Bears, Seahawks, Titans, Packers; and he visited Eagles prior to NFL directive halting those due to health crisis @Utah_Football #NFLDraft2020

Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Several NFL teams closely vetting Florida International quarterback James Morgan including hometown Packers, Patriots, Bears, Colts, Raiders, Giants, Bills, Jets and Dolphins @OTGSports

Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Houston LT Josh Jones @JoshJones_23 @UHCougarFB a rising first-round prospect from George Bush HS, has video conferences with Patriots, Texans, 49ers, Colts, Eagles, Rams, Chargers, Cardinals, Bucs, Bears, Ravens, Vikings, Jets, Packers #NFLDraft2020 @seniorbowl @JimNagy_SB

Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Strong East-West Shrine all-star game practices so far for Florida International quarterback James Morgan, elevating his draft stock. Has met with majority of teams there, including Texans, Panthers, Browns, Lions, Cowboys, Packers, Colts, Jaguars, Chiefs, Chargers, Rams

[HarveyWallbangers]

I read an interesting article where scouts said the media's mocks and draft boards are way off compared to most years. Basically, because of the Wuhan Virus. It stated that the media types haven't had the access to scouts that they normally would. Not that they can't communicate electronically, but there have been events that were canceled (e.g. most Pro Days) where media would have easier access to the scouting community. I think you have to take the mocks and big boards with a grain of salt. Interesting read. I think you see a bit of that with McGinn's article on WRs.

[Bretsky]

I could see that; normally we have a pretty good beat on where players are going by draft day in here but we could be way off as well.

Reading Reuter was interesting. He basically said GB picks a safety or CB year after year in round 1 or 2 and he expects them to again.

We often think of what will help us win now; but we don't know if our GM thinks that way. In his Rueter's interview he noted JT would be a great first round pick for GB if they think Jones might leave. Ditto for a CB if they're losing King.

I'm still hoping Murray or Queen falls to them in round one, and then we trade up a nab a burner at WR in round two. If Josh Jones or a ILB doesn't fall, I'd be all about trading down in round 1.

Rueter predicts they trade up and give up a 3rd round pick to get a CB in round one; that would be disappointing

[Bretsky]

Round 1 Justin Jefferson WR | LSU

Round: 2 Justin Madubuike DL | Texas A&M

Round: 3 Logan Wilson LB | Wyoming

Round: 4 Evan Weaver LB | California

Round: 5 Jon Runyan OT | Michigan

Round: 6 Joe Reed WR | Virginia

Round: 6 Shyheim Carter S | Alabama

Round: 6 Michael Warren II RB | Cincinnati

Round: 7 Chauncey Rivers EDGE | Mississippi State

Round: 7 Josh Brown OT | College of Idaho




I MIGHT TAKE THIS ONE

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Zach Kruse @zachkruse2
Packers are doing some pre-draft work on H-back types. Likely they draft one late or sign one as a priority free agent. Vitale replacement

[texaspackerbacker]

I wish they'd commit to using TEs for that purpose. I see Vitale's roster spot as a waste. A TE could have done what he did as effectively or more so. Also train Jamal Williams as a lead blocker in some cases, and maybe have somebody doing the Fridge thing in a few rare goal line situations.

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Its going to be a glorious night:

Dianna Russini @diannaESPN
I’m texting with multiple coaches and GM’s who are on this mock draft call and everybody is saying the same thing which is band width is a problem. There are many communication issues.

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Text from a participant on the NFL’s mock draft that started at 1 pm EST. “Mock draft today already technical glitch w Cincinnatis 1st pick!!! Brutal.”

[mraynrand]

Gotta have the wired tech available

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Gotta have the wired tech available

Loved that movie. Weirded out a lot of people.

I just hope there is enough confusion for a coach or owner to fire someone because a phone call gets choppy

[mraynrand]

Loved that movie. Weirded out a lot of people.

I just hope there is enough confusion for a coach or owner to fire someone because a phone call gets choppy

There has to be at least one major glorious failure attributed to failed tech. Just hoping it isn't the Packers. 'Cheat flubbing a franchise QB pick would be the best.

[wist43]

Was listening to PFF today (Steve and Sam), and they're speculating that Reagor will be long gone by pick 30.