Official 2020 Free Agency Thread

[bobblehead]

Yeah because Gute came in and effectively turned over the whole roster with means other then “developing 6th round picks” as your ace in the hole. Thompson was a great talent evaluator in his prime but his Stubborn and Shrewd ways cost us probably “Two Lombardi’s”.

Thompson was flat out garbage his last years and should of been let go way before it got to where it ended up.

turned over the whole roster? LT, C, RT both RB, QB, 2 DL, ILB, CB, are all TT guys still....Yes, Gutes has used up all the cap space TT left him to sign an old Jimmy Graham and a few defensive guys, but 9 of the starters are still TT guys, and several of the replacements aren't all that great. Remeber, TT was sadled with Clay, who the fan base all loved (except me). He had perry on a regretful contract, but it was what the market demanded at the time. I could do this all day. Talk to me when gutes wins us an Owl. Talk to me when gutes makes another 4 NFCC games. Talk to me when gutes drafts a HOF QB and makes the fun choice of letting the previous one walk.

Grass is always greener guys like you crack me up. We had a monster run with a great GM and all you want to do is bitch because we had a few bad years. Lets be honest about why. M3 sucked as the league passed him by. Rodgers got hurt for the bulk of a season. Gute has picked early so far and hasn't landed an impact player yet (Jenkins will be though). TT drafted at the end of the round and landed guys like King and Clark. When Gary is comparable to either get back to me.

My best guess is that we have one more good season before entering cap hell and then bad drafts will take their toll.

[bobblehead]

Dude come on, they were awful. Do you not recall my in depth breakdown of picks? Those drafts were horrible.

I just broke it down. Show me all the GM's that did better. Show me how many starters gutes has drafted that compare to TT's last drafts.

[bobblehead]

If you want to build a “Top Defensive Pedigree” you gotta do it more like the Seahawks have done it over the years(they did have a down year by there standards last year). You gotta go out and get some mean mofo’s that want to take other peoples lunch money. Load the defense with twitchy athletes that can “play mean” and be bully’s. Whether you like it or not that is the mentality needed. All this “finesse schemes” and “exotic looks” is smoke and mirrors and eventually gets “RAN OVER”. I personally wouldn’t be building a front seven around guys that are from Northwestern and Stanford. I really don’t want a bunch of “nice guys” protecting my goal line.

Gute has gotten some of what is needed. We will see if he can complete the process.

Seahawks got the benefit of drafting a few guys much earlier than we ever did. then they won ONE owl. TT has one owl. He has a shitload more success than seattle has had.

[bobblehead]

Christ, I just looked. Seahawks have had 10 wins 3 times and 11 wins last year. Won their own division ONCE. DOMINANT, you're right.

[pbmax]

Zach Kruse @zachkruse2
Following the breadcrumbs...the Packers have clearly spoken with Austin Hooper's representation, but haven't reached out to Bryan Bulaga's. Have to wonder if bringing Bulaga back is a lower priority than we assume.

Zach Kruse @zachkruse2
This TE class in the draft looks really bad, but it's really strong at OT and WR. Makes some sense for the Packers to solve TE by adding Hooper and then address OT/WR in the draft.

[pbmax]

Christ, I just looked. Seahawks have had 10 wins 3 times and 11 wins last year. Won their own division ONCE. DOMINANT, you're right.

I love that no one agrees here. Refreshing.

#no snark

[pbmax]

Bridge @BridgesFootball

2020 UFA LBS
Nick Kwiatkoski (@nkwiatkoski27)
Best value signing in UFA. Good in space. Smart player. Good lateral quickness & pursuit. Plays under control & good w/ hands to separate & shed. Plays fast. @NFLBrawl #BrawlNetwork

NO IDEA WHO BRIDGE IS, BUT STILL THIS POST HAS THE WORD VALUE IN IT

[bobblehead]

Bobble, you gotta talk me out of wanting to trade down for an ILB and sign a free agent (GASP!) WR.

Signing a FA WR depends on how they view what they got. I want to sign Hooper in a big way as it fills a monster need. ILB is tricky. I have no clue what the draft holds, but I like instinct guys at that position not athletes. I would do the unpopular. Plug in a guy that won't kill us and play the hybrid next to him. Or better yet, play a true 3-4 and use 2 hybrid types while fat guys eat up blocks. The defense is a tweak away from being damn good. I don't think a ton more talent is necessary.

GM bobble probably takes a WR at 30 cuz this draft is silly with them. I think you will land a normal 12-17 pick at WR right where we are picking. Sign Hooper to give another weapon so you don't have to rely on a rookie WR other than the few things you get him to be successful at as a rookie. Keep Raven Greene healthy and "find" another undersized ILB either through the draft or FA. Bolton might even be that guy, but then play 3 DL all the time. Only play the dime/big nickel package on 3rd down, not 2nd and 7 constantly. Never on 1st down. Rodgers 2nd year in the O, advancement of WR talent + hooper would make a team that makes the NFCC again....can we win it? Well that as always depends.

[bobblehead]

Zach Kruse @zachkruse2
Following the breadcrumbs...the Packers have clearly spoken with Austin Hooper's representation, but haven't reached out to Bryan Bulaga's. Have to wonder if bringing Bulaga back is a lower priority than we assume.

Zach Kruse @zachkruse2
This TE class in the draft looks really bad, but it's really strong at OT and WR. Makes some sense for the Packers to solve TE by adding Hooper and then address OT/WR in the draft.

Also think Jenkins might end up RT this upcoming season and the next 10.

[Gotarace]

Bridge @BridgesFootball

2020 UFA LBS
Nick Kwiatkoski (@nkwiatkoski27)
Best value signing in UFA. Good in space. Smart player. Good lateral quickness & pursuit. Plays under control & good w/ hands to separate & shed. Plays fast. @NFLBrawl #BrawlNetwork

NO IDEA WHO BRIDGE IS, BUT STILL THIS POST HAS THE WORD VALUE IN IT

I for some strange reason watched many Bears Games this season and this kid can play Ball...I'm on the Nick Train.

[call_me_ishmael]

I just broke it down. Show me all the GM's that did better. Show me how many starters gutes has drafted that compare to TT's last drafts.

Do you own homework. I agree though that Gooter hasn’t lit the world on fire so far.

[call_me_ishmael]

Also think Jenkins might end up RT this upcoming season and the next 10.

Maybe but I think it’d be silly to move an absolute stud at guard for the next 10. They do need to draft a tackle in the first round though. Bulaga or not.

[RashanGary]

Good stuff, bobble. Lots of perspective there

Gutes barely had a chance. I'll compare them more in a few years. But gute just had us in the NFCC game so I'm not gonna write him off just yet.

I'm a big thompson fan, but down the stretch there, paying Perry but letting Hyde and Heyward go was awful. Then the awful stinker of a draft and a couple more so/so ones. His health was affecting him. It was time.

But TT had a great run. Second best run in the SB era of Packer history. Hofer

[RashanGary]

The graham signing was awful.

Too early to judge the drafts.

Alexander, Scott, Bradley, Madison, MVS and ESB all still have chances


The entire 2019 draft still has a chance, other than Summers, who clearly sucks.


2020, he has his staff in place, a little more experience....



Gute gets a little more time to make my mind up.

Thompson is a HOFer who had severe health problems. It's two completely different topics

[run pMc]

Zach Kruse @zachkruse2
Following the breadcrumbs...the Packers have clearly spoken with Austin Hooper's representation, but haven't reached out to Bryan Bulaga's. Have to wonder if bringing Bulaga back is a lower priority than we assume.

Zach Kruse @zachkruse2
This TE class in the draft looks really bad, but it's really strong at OT and WR. Makes some sense for the Packers to solve TE by adding Hooper and then address OT/WR in the draft.

Yeah, it sure looks like they aren't in a hurry to bring back Bulaga, and if they are looking at Schobert they're moving on from Blake. Also sounds like Fackrell won't be back.
Not sure about the Schobert signing; to me that's not a big upgrade from Blake to justify a $10M/yr contract. It also makes me think they are planning on drafting a RT high and maybe bringing Veldheer back for spot duty.

If you don't bring Bulaga back and you dump Graham you are missing starters at RT and TE. I think they will overpay if they sign Hooper and Schobert (which is what happens in FA)