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  • I wouldn't have wanted Sanders at that price. He'll be a decent fit as a proven vet and the #2 to Michael Thomas (who will pretty much garner double coverage). A vet WR might help them out (a rookie WR is gonna struggle) if ESB and MVS don't make a leap, but I don't like any of the options out there. Perriman is a half-season wonder, and Robby Anderson will cost a lot for what he does. Taylor Gabriel is a little guy and those kind of receiver break down fast (and I think he's starting to). It's still relatively early -- there will be cuts and trades and someone might shake loose. All these WRs in the draft will have teams evaluating their current WR group and looking for ways to improve their price : production : potential

    I don't know what Ryan Pace and the Bears saw in Jimmy that made them offer him a contract like that. I don't think anyone else was going to offer that kind of money, and Jimmy's a good guy but he's not going to produce the kind of numbers he did 5 years ago. They have a ton of TE's - maybe they are trying to raise the competition or something. They have a couple of TEs (e.g., Dax Reymond) who could be decent developmental guys, so I really don't know. They whiffed on Adam Sheehan (who was a risk/reach as a R2 pick from a small school) and Trey Burton has been hurt, but I think their issue is at QB & OL, not WR/TE. With their defense I certainly wouldn't count them out, but I wonder what their roster is going to look like in a year or two when the contracts start to add up and they have to cut/renegotiate because the production on guys slips or injuries mount. I guess they are counting on huge jumps in the cap, which is possible under the new CBA.

    The Kirksey vs. Kwiatkoski question is a good one. I'm 50/50 on that one, mostly because Kirksey has been hurt. He's not a small guy (6-2, 235) for ILB but I don't know if those are freak accidents or if he's breaking down. He passed his physical and if he's healthy and MLF's regimen can keep him that way he's a much better signing at that price than Kwiiatkoski (who I like a lot). Interesting fact: Nick's nearest comparable on playerprofile is....Christian Kirskey.
    Nick Kwiatkoski player profile featuring career stats, fantasy ranking, & analytics data. See combine scores, SPARQ, measurables, and comparable players.

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    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      Who is his agent?

      Field Yates @FieldYates
      Breaking down Jimmy Graham's two-year, $16M deal with the Bears: $6M signing bonus, $3M 2020 base salary (guaranteed). 2021: $6.9M base salary, $100K workout bonus. Plus incentives to up the ante and a rare no-trade clause.

      Evan Silva @evansilva
      Trading *up* for Mitch Trubisky
      Mike Glennon for $20 million a year
      Nick Foles for a fourth-round pick
      Jimmy Graham for $8 million a year and a no-trade clause (wtf?)

      The #Bears specialize in bidding against themselves.
      I thought the recent JSO article about how free agency moves would reshape the NFC North in the Bears' favor was ridiculous. So getting Nick Foles and his big contract to replace Trubitchsky, for whom they mortgaged the future, and signing a 30 year old Robert Quinn but letting Leonard Floyd go makes them the favorite in the NFC North? What?
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      • Their biggest issue is, and has always been QB. If Foles is reasonably capable as a starter, they may make the playoffs. If he shows glimpses of 2013 or 2017, they may take the division. But those are pretty big ifs.

        That said, they have very little draft capital this year in the most meaningful rounds of the draft and they do not have a particularly good O-line. It seems more likely they'll go 4-12 than 12-4.

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        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          I like Joe Thomas, but I am not sure how impartial he is as an evaluator.

          Still, health is my main point. if he plays most games, he was a good investment. If he is not healthy, they are much worse off.

          I am not in gbgary's camp that considers Rodgers contract a death sentence and they also spent big to fix pass rush last year. But I am not sure signing risky starters is the best move now. Run defense can be had on the cheap. But a truly effective 3 down ILB is going to cost you and I wonder if a back loaded contract wouldn't have been a better move overall for the short term.

          The more I think about this, the more I think they might be expecting internal improvements on the offense and go ILB in the draft.
          But you (and many here) think injury is fluky and unpredictable. I think it has to do with preparedness, but if it is fluky (and honestly, some are) then we should assume he and Blake have a similar chance of suffering injury NEXT season. If that is the case, we got a bargain.
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          • I think the Packers signed somebody and haven't announced it yet. The players keep tweeting out the "eyes" emoji. Low key reminds me of when they signed Julius Pepperoni. Although I truly don't think anyone knew that was happening and I don't recall any eye emojis. Man that was a great surprise to wake up to.

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            • Yeah, I think it's Tramon.

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              • If it isn't a WR then I could care less.
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                • Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

                  The #Seahawks are signing WR Phillip Dorsett on a 1-year deal, source said. A former #Patriots WR has a new home.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
                    The #Packers are expected to sign WR Devin Funchess, per sources. A big body on the perimeter for Aaron Rodgers.

                    WHY?
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
                      The #Packers are expected to sign WR Devin Funchess, per sources. A big body on the perimeter for Aaron Rodgers.

                      WHY?
                      I'm with ya on that one... why??
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                      • I'll be interested to see what the money is. If healthy, he's an upgrade over Kumerow and MVS. He's just never lived up to his billing though, with just 1 good season.
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                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
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                        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          I'll be interested to see what the money is. If healthy, he's an upgrade over Kumerow and MVS. He's just never lived up to his billing though, with just 1 good season.
                          This just shows me that Kumerow, ESB, MVS, and Funchess are all competing for a limited number of roster spots. Throw in at least 2 draft picks and UDFA's along with Adams, and you have 8-9 guys competing for 5-6 slots.

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                          • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
                            The #Packers are expected to sign WR Devin Funchess, per sources. A big body on the perimeter for Aaron Rodgers.

                            WHY?
                            Wasn't he a tight end for much of his college career?
                            Might they be thinking of a hybrid WR/TE role for him?

                            Otherwise, he doesn't excite me much.

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                            • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              Wasn't he a tight end for much of his college career?
                              Might they be thinking of a hybrid WR/TE role for him?

                              Otherwise, he doesn't excite me much.
                              At the combine he weighed over 230 and there was talk of him as a TE.

                              http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profil...ess?id=2552458

                              Has mismatch-caliber size, but lack of vertical talent and below-average hands might negate the size to an extent. Funchess was used outside and inside at Michigan and had success from the slot. He has the feel of a hybrid player who can be a big guy at wide receiver or a mismatch nightmare as a move tight end with more weight on his rangy frame.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • I'll go with the "why?" also. If he get him, I hope he is damn cheap. I really didn't want a FA WR signed. I still want a speed guy drafted about the second or third round. I'll be rooting for MVS, ESB, and Kumerow to step up and beat this guy for spots. Is Allison for sure gone?

                                I don't recall Funchess playing TE in college, but maybe. If he switches to TE, I might be less negative about this move.
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