Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Official CBA Thread

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 6
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 2 3 4 6 template Next
  • #1

    Official CBA Thread

    Owners vote to accept terms of new CBA.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...oposed-new-cba

    If 2/3 on player reps approve the deal, it would then need a simple majority from a vote of all the players to pass.

    Sources previously told ESPN that the proposed CBA would allow the league to expand the regular season from 16 games to 17 at some point in the next four years (although no sooner than 2021) in exchange for financial and other concessions the players have sought in negotiations. One concession is that the preseason will be shortened, sources said.

    In addition, sources said that starting in 2020, the playoff field would be expanded to seven teams from each conference, and only one team from each conference would receive a first-round bye as opposed to the two that currently do.
    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
    Tags: None
  • #2
    Not in favor of seven team playoff.

    Hope teams get two byes.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

    Comment

    • #3
      16 real games and 6 playoff teams is fine IMO.

      Comment

      • #4
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Not in favor of seven team playoff.

        Hope teams get two byes.
        +1

        Expand the regular season by one week, but still with 16 games. 17 games. what a cluster. unequal home and away is stupid. (Maybe everyone has to play one game abroad?). Yuk. Still, anything to reduce the preseason - hopefully to 2 games.
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

        Comment

        • #5
          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          +1

          Expand the regular season by one week, but still with 16 games. 17 games. what a cluster. unequal home and away is stupid. (Maybe everyone has to play one game abroad?). Yuk. Still, anything to reduce the preseason - hopefully to 2 games.
          Pretty sure the extra game will be on a neutral field. Not necessarily abroad, although I'm sure those would increase. I think you'll see NFL games in major college stadiums in areas where NFL doesn't play. Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska etc.
          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

          Comment

          • #6
            No way the players accept this
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

            Comment

            • #7
              http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...cba-vote-today

              Earlier on Friday, the NFLPA executive committee voted, 6-5, not to recommend the current CBA proposal, per Pelissero. As that was a recommendation, the matter then went to the 32-player board of representatives. Talks continued thereafter through Friday for roughly three hours before the news broke that a vote would no longer take place.

              "Today, the NFLPA Board of Player Representatives did not take a vote on the principal terms of a proposed new collective bargaining agreement," the NFLPA said in a statement Friday. "Our player leadership looks forward to meeting with NFL management again next week before the board takes a vote shortly after."
              Described by Pelissero as a heated and emotional Friday conference call, it began with the executive committee voting not to recommend the proposed CBA. The board continued to discuss it before agreeing not to vote on Friday. The next step is going to be what the NFLPA leadership hopes will be a meeting with the NFL Management Council, which negotiates on the league side, at the combine. After that, the board intends to carry out its vote.

              Pelissero also noted the vote of the rank-and-file players in its entirety was prognosticated to be a yes, but there is now a delay as the players union looks to see if there is any wiggle room on the league side.
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

              Comment

              • #8
                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                No way the players accept this
                Ultimately depends what percentage of players make more than 4M per year (250K per game * 16 games).

                If I were the players, I would lock out the owners and wait them out. Not getting 50% of revenue is insane in such a violent sport.

                In the end, I view 18 games and 2 in-season byes to be inevitable.

                I can see where having only one bye in the playoffs increases competition. Maybe it makes the product better. I think maybe it's worth a shot.

                Comment

                • #9
                  I don't know, seems like a fair deal but if the players want more I can see the NFL taking the approach that Frank Zappa once articulated......

                  "Keep it greasy so it'll go down easy" because if I were them I'd fuck 'em hard. TV deals will be worse and if I own the team I'm thinking, "You dumb fucks are paying for this, not me".

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                    I don't know, seems like a fair deal but if the players want more I can see the NFL taking the approach that Frank Zappa once articulated......

                    "Keep it greasy so it'll go down easy" because if I were them I'd fuck 'em hard. TV deals will be worse and if I own the team I'm thinking, "You dumb fucks are paying for this, not me".
                    Everyone keeps saying the TV deals will get worse and they never do. At some point, the whole thing will collapse, but this prediction has been wrong in an unbroken streak since 1980. The talk this time is that Monday Night Football is gong back to broadcast TV.

                    The players have had no media presence on this deal's particulars, all the info is from the owners side. So I am sure there are a few more shite sandwiches in there beside the capped 17th game for players with larger contracts.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                      No way the players accept this
                      The vets who oppose it already voted it down (as Joe posted 6-5 NFLPA exec committee) and the team reps as a whole are not voting. Those are all older players with likelier more lucrative deals.

                      But the negotiators agreed to it for a reason. So one of two things will happen:

                      1. The largely younger and less affluent players will vote yes to a 15-20% raise en masse and the vets get their protest vote.

                      2. Gets narrowly rejected and sent back to bargaining to increase the percentage of revenues up from 48 or 48.5% (the 17 game amount).
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        I'm as pro-union as the Soviet Union, but the elitists within the NFLPA needs to quit crying about the extra game. It's not like the players are being forced to work 80 hours a week for the federal minimum-wage.

                        Currently, NFL players work just 3 hours a week, and half of that time, the starters are taking breaks and drinking Gatorade on the bench (backups rarely play). They do all that while getting paid boatloads of frogskins, and enjoying the best healthcare this mercantile world has to offer at no costs.

                        Fuck 17 games. Go for 20... so long as the players get a larger portion of the pie, of course.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                          I'm as pro-union as the Soviet Union, but the elitists within the NFLPA needs to quit crying about the extra game. It's not like the players are being forced to work 80 hours a week for the federal minimum-wage.

                          Currently, NFL players work just 3 hours a week, and half of that time, the starters are taking breaks and drinking Gatorade on the bench (backups rarely play). They do all that while getting paid boatloads of frogskins, and enjoying the best healthcare this mercantile world has to offer at no costs.

                          Fuck 17 games. Go for 20... so long as the players get a larger portion of the pie, of course.
                          Not only was the Soviet Union not pro-Union at all, but you are clearly one of those in favor of unions unless it means someone else gets paid.

                          So please get lost.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            Rodgers voted no, but it passed 17-14-1 in player rep vote.

                            I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              Rodgers voted no, but it passed 17-14-1 in player rep vote.


                              Rodgers and Russ Wilson are completely out of touch with the rank and file. The majority of guys will be way better off and the rules regarding weed which is a big deal to some players have been relaxed.

                              Seemed like a fair give and take to me. Sometimes the players act like they own the teams. They are unionized employees in a very dangerous job. They are also very well paid. They keep saying they want lifetime healthcare. I'd love that but who in real life gets it?
                              I'm sure it could be done. The cost comes off the salary cap or something as a proposal. Benefits are looked upon by management like any other cost. You ask for something that has an insane cost you better expect a significant cost to obtain it.

                              Lastly, biggest complainers never play in the preseason and are worried about one more game. Would be amusing if the union shot this down and the NFL mandated teams play starters for all preseason games...enjoy the 20 game season.

                              I've done quite a bit of baseball research the last year and those players got fucked in the behind for 100 years. I get the players ain't cattle, but I heard somewhere 48.5% of the take would be tops in sports.

                              Comment

                              Previous 1 2 3 4 6 template Next
                              Working...
                              X