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  • #16
    Sounds like minimum wage bumps from around 600000 to 1,000,000

    That is appealing to the majority
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      Sounds like minimum wage bumps from around 600000 to 1,000,000

      That is appealing to the majority
      It's over several years but yea, the minimum guys got a big carrot, which is cool. They take the same beating, right?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rastak View Post
        It's over several years but yea, the minimum guys got a big carrot, which is cool. They take the same beating, right?
        No, they most assuredly do not. Minimum $ guys play 3 - 4 snaps per game, and therein lies the crux of the problem.

        The average career for an NFL player is around 3.5 years, which covers about 75% of the rosters. Of course the majority of players will elect to get the most they can as soon as they can. Of course the minority (big contract, long term) wants to nix the deal as they make the lions share of the "split" and want to suckle the teat as long as possible.

        The players have the product and the power, but the owners have time.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by QBME View Post
          No, they most assuredly do not. Minimum $ guys play 3 - 4 snaps per game, and therein lies the crux of the problem.

          The average career for an NFL player is around 3.5 years, which covers about 75% of the rosters. Of course the majority of players will elect to get the most they can as soon as they can. Of course the minority (big contract, long term) wants to nix the deal as they make the lions share of the "split" and want to suckle the teat as long as possible.

          The players have the product and the power, but the owners have time.

          The fuck the players do have that much power. I agree on the fact the big guys want to get the milk long and often.

          That said, I've yet to find one guy who said they stopped watching sports because the players on the team they liked retired. The masses watch the uniform, myself included. When the Purple People Eaters of the 70's became extinct I didn't say "Oh well, I guess that's done". The current guys would soon be forgotten. Reminds me a little of Rollerball. It's the team, the individual players do not matter in the least in the long run.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rastak View Post
              The fuck the players do have that much power. I agree on the fact the big guys want to get the milk long and often.

              That said, I've yet to find one guy who said they stopped watching sports because the players on the team they liked retired. The masses watch the uniform, myself included. When the Purple People Eaters of the 70's became extinct I didn't say "Oh well, I guess that's done". The current guys would soon be forgotten. Reminds me a little of Rollerball. It's the team, the individual players do not matter in the least in the long run.
              I think where're on the same track, just from different directions. I wasn't trying to implicate any loyalties (fer cryin' out loud I've hung on for 50 years), the point I was trying to make was the owners have all the cards. As long as the sport limits the careers of the vast majority of players, for whatever reason, the power is with the owners. But it is the players that have the product. Remember 1987 or when the players were locked out and the replacements came in? What a shit show - the owners caved and made concessions they swore they would never grant. My point is that if the players union was really a union and held fast, they would have the owners by the little bits - but because the money is so good for even the shortest stint, it ain't gonna happen. I am in no way advocating for one side or the other, just commenting on what I see and think. Which is the purpose of this forum.....I think.

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              • #22
                Oldest trick in negotiation book.

                Gave in on things they could not actually care less about and then offered more money to lowest paid employees. Translates into headlines and votes.

                They don’t get higher percentage of revenue (at least not that I have seen reported), Goodell is still the judge and jury and big contract players everyone tunes in to see get a paycut for revenue producing 17th game.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #23
                  I’ve shared many examples of improving the game here. Arbitrarily adding one home non conf game every other year is lame.

                  I’m not a fan of one team getting a bye. I’d say if they want another playoff game - eliminate the byes altogether.
                  The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                  Vince Lombardi

                  "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                  • #24
                    They publicized the hell out of the concessions and have now said take it or leave it. Just think how many terms of the deal haven’t been addressed publicly.

                    I read it will take the lawyers two weeks to put the thing on paper for a formal vote to happen.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post

                      I read it will take the lawyers two weeks to put the thing on paper for a formal vote to happen.
                      three weeks - at $400/hour
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        three weeks - at $400/hour
                        Dee Smith is a hotshot BLACK lawyer. Hiring other lawyers is financially wasteful. Yes, I included race b/c you and your ilk don’t think the black man is good enough to be a hotshot lawyer.

                        While I’m all for the players getting 100% of net profit, I think the players should sign the current deal. A 3 hours work week, for only 17 weeks a year, for millions of frogskins, plus excellent health care/coverage ain’t too bad.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                          Dee Smith is a hotshot BLACK lawyer. Hiring other lawyers is financially wasteful. Yes, I included race b/c you and your ilk don’t think the black man is good enough to be a hotshot lawyer.
                          Piss off
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            three weeks - at $400/hour
                            You always have to factor that in, but lawyers are not the only ones working hourly

                            #IT Contract Work

                            There is a reason most of the internet is filled with lawyers and IT people
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                              Dee Smith is a hotshot BLACK lawyer. Hiring other lawyers is financially wasteful. Yes, I included race b/c you and your ilk don’t think the black man is good enough to be a hotshot lawyer.

                              While I’m all for the players getting 100% of net profit, I think the players should sign the current deal. A 3 hours work week, for only 17 weeks a year, for millions of frogskins, plus excellent health care/coverage ain’t too bad.
                              I know you are just trying to piss off Rand, but Smith's specialty is not labor law and labor law specialists will be writing the contract language. Smith has done trial work, corporate law, white collar crime, prison issues and (national, I think) security.

                              The one new interesting thing to come out of this reporting is that the NFLPA couldn't even get an insurance firm to write a policy for retired NFL players health care.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                The one new interesting thing to come out of this reporting is that the NFLPA couldn't even get an insurance firm to write a policy for retired NFL players health care.
                                You mean all those AM radio spots for “SelectQuote” were lies?
                                Last edited by mraynrand; 02-29-2020, 08:30 AM.
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