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  • #46
    Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
    My thinking is you have D. Adams who is a bigger bodied receiver. They went out and signed a huge receiver in Funches. Lazard is a young, huge receiver who is developing. For me, all this points to them targeting a smaller explosive type in the draft.

    Reagor or Aiyuk just make too much sense. LaFluer’s scheme needs some guys like this to be optimal.
    Aiyuk got compared to Greg Jennings yesterday in McGinn's column, so I automatically like him. But Gute doesn't seem to have backed off wanting big receivers even if his coach isn't publicly insisting. I think its obvious the big slot didn't work last year, but I'd be hard pressed to convince anyone it was the plan and not the talent.

    But they also aren't going to reveal any changes to the plan before the draft.

    So maybe this happens. La Fleur has had smaller receivers before.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Big slots are a bonus in the run game. Kumerow was a good inline blocker along with Lazard.

      Big framed receivers
      top of second day of draft guys:

      Chase Claypool Notre Dame 6'4" 238 - Super athletic for size

      Micheal Pittman USC 6'4" 223 - he was more of an outside guy at USC and was a willing blocker on the edge.

      Antonio Gibson Memphis 6'0" 228 - sub 4.4 guy with some thickness. He is a jack of all trades as he played lined up in the slot and at running back, one year of production that was huge as he had 7 TDs of 40 yards or more.

      Bryan Edwards South Carolina 6'3" 212 - didn't run at the combine and didn't get his pro day in. He had good production at South Carolina. Has the ability in the run game but needs to put forth a better consistent effort.

      Other mid round/late round players

      Quintez Cephus 6'1" 202 - Probably the smallest guy on this list, but we know he had the most reps @ 225 and he played in the Badgers run heavy offense, he is one of the better blockers in this class of receiver

      Juan Jennings Tennessee 6'3" 215 - yeah he is slow and he is slow on film, but he blocks from the slot position and he makes plays. Those skills may get him into a camp.

      Antonio Golde-Gandy Liberty 6'4" 223 - big dude that hasn't played a lot in the slot but has the frame that makes you think he could sort of play as a y-off or closer to the end man on the line of scrimmage.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Aiyuk got compared to Greg Jennings yesterday in McGinn's column, so I automatically like him. But Gute doesn't seem to have backed off wanting big receivers even if his coach isn't publicly insisting. I think its obvious the big slot didn't work last year, but I'd be hard pressed to convince anyone it was the plan and not the talent.

        But they also aren't going to reveal any changes to the plan before the draft.

        So maybe this happens. La Fleur has had smaller receivers before.

        Last year I wanted them to Target Deebo Samuel or Parris Campbell. I was completely disappointed.

        This year I got Aiyuk and Reagor. If it’s not now then it’s probably never.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
          Big slots are a bonus in the run game. Kumerow was a good inline blocker along with Lazard.

          Big framed receivers
          top of second day of draft guys:

          Chase Claypool Notre Dame 6'4" 238 - Super athletic for size

          Micheal Pittman USC 6'4" 223 - he was more of an outside guy at USC and was a willing blocker on the edge.

          Antonio Gibson Memphis 6'0" 228 - sub 4.4 guy with some thickness. He is a jack of all trades as he played lined up in the slot and at running back, one year of production that was huge as he had 7 TDs of 40 yards or more.

          Bryan Edwards South Carolina 6'3" 212 - didn't run at the combine and didn't get his pro day in. He had good production at South Carolina. Has the ability in the run game but needs to put forth a better consistent effort.

          Other mid round/late round players

          Quintez Cephus 6'1" 202 - Probably the smallest guy on this list, but we know he had the most reps @ 225 and he played in the Badgers run heavy offense, he is one of the better blockers in this class of receiver

          Juan Jennings Tennessee 6'3" 215 - yeah he is slow and he is slow on film, but he blocks from the slot position and he makes plays. Those skills may get him into a camp.

          Antonio Golde-Gandy Liberty 6'4" 223 - big dude that hasn't played a lot in the slot but has the frame that makes you think he could sort of play as a y-off or closer to the end man on the line of scrimmage.
          Neither could get consistent “SEPARATION” in the passing game.

          I’ve seen Claypool thrown around out there going to us in 1st or 2nd. I would absolutely hate that pick. We just signed Funches and it makes zero sense.

          Cephus on day 3 would work.

          Edit: I like Edwards too.
          Last edited by GB-Brandon; 04-16-2020, 10:09 AM.

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          • #50
            I was talking about the strengths of the receivers and why the Packers used them. I fully recognize they can't get regular separation, probably because they were street free agents, and are not overly talented receivers. Lazard was actually a high profile recruit out of high school, so he has some sneaky athleticism, he just isn't a burner.

            Funches isn't a long term solution to the Packers receiving woes. I am not a proponent of the Packers drafting anyone. The Packers are going to draft who they think is the best fit and need and then you sit back and show patients and really look to reevaluate after year three.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
              I was talking about the strengths of the receivers and why the Packers used them. I fully recognize they can't get regular separation, probably because they were street free agents, and are not overly talented receivers. Lazard was actually a high profile recruit out of high school, so he has some sneaky athleticism, he just isn't a burner.

              Funches isn't a long term solution to the Packers receiving woes. I am not a proponent of the Packers drafting anyone. The Packers are going to draft who they think is the best fit and need and then you sit back and show patients and really look to reevaluate after year three.
              Been there and done that with:

              J’’momma Moore
              MVS
              G. Allison
              Jeff Janis
              Jarred Abbrederis
              ESB
              Trevor Davis
              DeAngelo Yancy
              Kevin Dorsey
              Charles Johnson

              Who am I missing?

              This is what happens when you build a receiving Corp with “tier 4” prospects which is a damn shame when you have a generational talent at QB.

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              • #52
                I have been hearing the same fan complaints for the past 25 years.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                  Been there and done that with:

                  J’’momma Moore never made it to year 2
                  MVS Going into his 3rd year, Adams had a very tough 2nd year with Packer fans wanting to cut him
                  G. Allison Free agent signing, I wouldn't call him a tier 4 guy, and the amount of production you got out of him I would consider a plus
                  Jeff Janis Special teams demon, that is why he was on the roster
                  Jarred Abbrederis wasn't signed to be a #1 or #2. Stepped up when Packers receiving core was decimated due to injury
                  ESB Going into year 3
                  Trevor Davis Never liked him, but he was a late rounder? What do you want?
                  DeAngelo Yancy
                  Kevin Dorsey
                  Charles Johnson

                  Who am I missing?

                  This is what happens when you build a receiving Corp with “tier 4” prospects which is a damn shame when you have a generational talent at QB.
                  Donald Driver, you missed him. He is the Packers all time leading receiver and happened to be a 7th round pick.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                    Donald Driver, you missed him. He is the Packers all time leading receiver and happened to be a 7th round pick.
                    So we’re basically 1 for 15 and that hit was over 10 years ago. Not the odds I like. It hasn’t worked over the long haul. Sure, if you scratch off enough lotto tickets you will eventually hit a winner. The Packers need too quit shopping at K-Mart for WR’s and it’s almost too late.

                    You do know what the definition of insanity is right?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                      Donald Driver, you missed him. He is the Packers all time leading receiver and happened to be a 7th round pick.
                      Don’t forget the mighty Jarrett Boykin, Jake Kummerow or the “Next Randall Cobb”(Ty Montgomery) who ended up playing RB.

                      The bottom line is they haven’t produced Sh*t since drafting Adams in the second round.

                      Jordy- 2nd Round
                      Cobb- 2nd Round
                      Jennings 2nd Round
                      JJ - 3rd round
                      Jevon Walker- 1st round
                      Sterling Sharpe- 1st round

                      I know what group I like. This isn’t rocket science.

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                      • #56
                        How quickly everyone forgets about Craig Bragg.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          How quickly everyone forgets about Craig Bragg.
                          The list of “mediocrity” of “tier 4 receivers” is so long it’s easy to forget one here and there.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                            So we’re basically 1 for 15 and that hit was over 10 years ago. Not the odds I like. It hasn’t worked over the long haul. Sure, if you scratch off enough lotto tickets you will eventually hit a winner. The Packers need too quit shopping at K-Mart for WR’s and it’s almost too late.

                            You do know what the definition of insanity is right?
                            Making the playoffs just about ever year? Is that your definition of insanity? What's your expectation? The Packers having 5 first round draft picks at wide receiver? I don't think the Packers or any other organization skip positional need because they only want to draft the position later in the draft, most likely their isn't a prospect rated high enough to draft early.

                            I am evaluating the draft, not the Packers. If you are so good at evaluating talent at wide receiver please tell me why Jalen Reagor is so much better than Quartney Davis or Devin Duvernay? Go ahead and watch all the game tape on them, don't read any other write ups, just watch film and tell me why one player is so highly valued over another one? I am not a full time scout, I have my reasons why I rate him two tiers higher, but truly we have very little room to decipher compared to a full time scout. Is Reagor a better value in the first round than Duvernay or Davis in the 3rd or 4th round? Please explain it to me?

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                            • #59
                              “Malachi Dupre” - People were so so excited about this one although it didn’t last too long.

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                              • #60
                                I guess I don't understand the disconnect. He only has like 15 receivers in his top three tiers, so the tier four he is talking about are a lot of 3rd and 4th rounders (in a very deep WR draft)--not late round flyers. Think James Jones, not Malachi Dupre. There are guys he has listed in that tier that I don't like that high though.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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