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I'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing.Originally posted by smuggler View PostJennings clocked 6.68 in the 3-cone. Reagor 7.31.
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Yet Aiyuk and Duvernay had almost identical 10 yard splits. Aiyuk is much more explosive then Duvernay also. The main thing that turns me off with Duvernay is his hips are as tight as a drum which will make it very difficult for him to develop an NFL route tree. I see him as a one trick pony that can run seam routes but won’t have much to play off that which could be a huge problem.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View PostI could see drafting Reagor or Mims early, even first round, but not Aiyuk even in the second round. His 4.5 time for the 40 smacks of mediocrity. Devin Duvernay performed way better and had a lot better 40 time.
I don't like a O Lineman in the first round; We don't need a ILB bad enough for a first round pick; It's doubtful that a Kenny Clark clone will be available in our first round; So what does that leave? Maybe another Corner? Maybe Jonathan Taylor? I hope not an edge rusher, especially Epenesa; Maybe Reagor or Mims. In the second round or maybe even third, I'd rather have Isaiah Wilson of Georgia over Josh Jones.
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Nice prospect but to me it’s just more of the same.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
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I think Reagor putting on that weight so fast might of had something to do with it too.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing.
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Source? Link?Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I have no concern about Reagor's short area burst of being able to get into and out of his cuts crisply.
I'm fine with Reagor at 30.
I want to come away from the first 2 picks with any 2 of the following:
Mims, Reagor, Queen, Blacklock, Aiyuk, Bartch, Terrell, Taylor, Elliot, Murray, Jefferson, Chinn, Edwards...
Those are all guys I think could be available at either pick or in between. Someone ranked higher could drop, we could trade up or down... pretty deep draft, so a lot of scenarios.wist
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Duvernay gets going fast off the LOS his acceleration is damn good. Although I agree that he is stiff through his core and hips and he struggles to get his hips flipped, he does a really nice job of sinking his his hips to adjust his center of gravity to improve his balance.
We can argue all day about who and where a player should be drafted, but the reality is there are 15 to 20 guys in this draft that could easily make and impact in the NFL in 2020, which probably means there will be a ton of duds in 2020 with only 4 or 5 making a positive impact in 2020.
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Originally posted by wist43 View PostI have no concern about Reagor's short area burst of being able to get into and out of his cuts crisply.
I'm fine with Reagor at 30.
I want to come away from the first 2 picks with any 2 of the following:
Mims, Reagor, Queen, Blacklock, Aiyuk, Bartch, Terrell, Taylor, Elliot, Murray, Jefferson, Chinn, Edwards...
Those are all guys I think could be available at either pick or in between. Someone ranked higher could drop, we could trade up or down... pretty deep draft, so a lot of scenarios.
I like this, I think the Packers would get a good initial grade if they came away with these guys:
Obviously I am expecting certain top tier guys to be off the board, also no specific order
WR
Mims
Reagor
Pittman
Jefferson
KJ Hamler
Aiyuk
Higgins
Shenault
DL
Epenesa
Davidson
Gallimore
Blacklock
LB
Queen
Murray
Baun
OT
Jones
Niang
Tega Wanogho
Jackson
IOL
Ruiz
Hunt
CB
Gladney
Jaylon Johnson
Terrell
Arnette
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3 cone scores were lower for every position group this year.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostI'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Which is why I have Porche ahead of him. Porche is the better natural route runner with the best hands in the draft. His natural movements are far superior to Duvernay. I once again would take short area quickness with ability to separate in small places over deep speed.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostDuvernay gets going fast off the LOS his acceleration is damn good. Although I agree that he is stiff through his core and hips and he struggles to get his hips flipped, he does a really nice job of sinking his his hips to adjust his center of gravity to improve his balance.
We can argue all day about who and where a player should be drafted, but the reality is there are 15 to 20 guys in this draft that could easily make and impact in the NFL in 2020, which probably means there will be a ton of duds in 2020 with only 4 or 5 making a positive impact in 2020.
We need someone to mix the drink from the slot and “move the chains”. If they fail to hit on Reagor, Hamler, Aiyuk then Porche provides an option in 4th-5th round. He screams Randall Cobb to me with Porche having better hands.
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Draft NetworkOriginally posted by GB-Brandon View PostWhich is why I have Porche ahead of him. Porche is the better natural route runner with the best hands in the draft. His natural movements are far superior to Duvernay. I once again would take short area quickness with ability to separate in small places over deep speed.
We need someone to mix the drink from the slot and “move the chains”. If they fail to hit on Reagor, Hamler, Aiyuk then Porche provides an option in 4th-5th round. He screams Randall Cobb to me with Porche having better hands.
James Proche
"Routes are not crisp, his breaks are rounded and his hips are tight. Creative working after the catch but you won’t find him breaking tackles on tape. Struggles to free himself when crowded early in his routes. Struggles to gain quick leverage and pull away due to his short strides."
Be consistent
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And 24/7 Sports saysOriginally posted by Deputy Nutz View PostDraft Network
James Proche
"Routes are not crisp, his breaks are rounded and his hips are tight. Creative working after the catch but you won’t find him breaking tackles on tape. Struggles to free himself when crowded early in his routes. Struggles to gain quick leverage and pull away due to his short strides."
Be consistent
“He's got fantastic hands, he's got good route running, especially in short and small spaces”
I can find an opinion to go either way on any of these guys if I look hard enough. I’m going by what I see when I WATCH THE FILM so I am being as consistent as I can.
Thank You
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