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  • #91
    Micheal Pittman Jr, its hard to get too excited about a guy like him, but I really watch how well receivers catch and attack the ball in traffic and he is really good at this. He has really good body control, his hands are ridiculous, and he is phyiscal. Good special team option for punt blocks.



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    • #92
      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
      Reagor reminds me of Jennings... faster than Jennings though.

      I'd be fine with Reagor or Mims at 30. Aiyuk at 62... there's a few guys I like in that 2nd/3rd round range.
      Jennings clocked 6.68 in the 3-cone. Reagor 7.31.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by smuggler View Post
        Jennings clocked 6.68 in the 3-cone. Reagor 7.31.
        I'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          I could see drafting Reagor or Mims early, even first round, but not Aiyuk even in the second round. His 4.5 time for the 40 smacks of mediocrity. Devin Duvernay performed way better and had a lot better 40 time.

          I don't like a O Lineman in the first round; We don't need a ILB bad enough for a first round pick; It's doubtful that a Kenny Clark clone will be available in our first round; So what does that leave? Maybe another Corner? Maybe Jonathan Taylor? I hope not an edge rusher, especially Epenesa; Maybe Reagor or Mims. In the second round or maybe even third, I'd rather have Isaiah Wilson of Georgia over Josh Jones.
          Yet Aiyuk and Duvernay had almost identical 10 yard splits. Aiyuk is much more explosive then Duvernay also. The main thing that turns me off with Duvernay is his hips are as tight as a drum which will make it very difficult for him to develop an NFL route tree. I see him as a one trick pony that can run seam routes but won’t have much to play off that which could be a huge problem.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
            Micheal Pittman Jr, its hard to get too excited about a guy like him, but I really watch how well receivers catch and attack the ball in traffic and he is really good at this. He has really good body control, his hands are ridiculous, and he is phyiscal. Good special team option for punt blocks.



            Nice prospect but to me it’s just more of the same.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
              I'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing.
              I think Reagor putting on that weight so fast might of had something to do with it too.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                I'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing.
                Source? Link?
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #98
                  I have no concern about Reagor's short area burst of being able to get into and out of his cuts crisply.

                  I'm fine with Reagor at 30.

                  I want to come away from the first 2 picks with any 2 of the following:

                  Mims, Reagor, Queen, Blacklock, Aiyuk, Bartch, Terrell, Taylor, Elliot, Murray, Jefferson, Chinn, Edwards...

                  Those are all guys I think could be available at either pick or in between. Someone ranked higher could drop, we could trade up or down... pretty deep draft, so a lot of scenarios.
                  wist

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                  • #99
                    Duvernay gets going fast off the LOS his acceleration is damn good. Although I agree that he is stiff through his core and hips and he struggles to get his hips flipped, he does a really nice job of sinking his his hips to adjust his center of gravity to improve his balance.

                    We can argue all day about who and where a player should be drafted, but the reality is there are 15 to 20 guys in this draft that could easily make and impact in the NFL in 2020, which probably means there will be a ton of duds in 2020 with only 4 or 5 making a positive impact in 2020.

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                    • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                      I have no concern about Reagor's short area burst of being able to get into and out of his cuts crisply.

                      I'm fine with Reagor at 30.

                      I want to come away from the first 2 picks with any 2 of the following:

                      Mims, Reagor, Queen, Blacklock, Aiyuk, Bartch, Terrell, Taylor, Elliot, Murray, Jefferson, Chinn, Edwards...

                      Those are all guys I think could be available at either pick or in between. Someone ranked higher could drop, we could trade up or down... pretty deep draft, so a lot of scenarios.

                      I like this, I think the Packers would get a good initial grade if they came away with these guys:
                      Obviously I am expecting certain top tier guys to be off the board, also no specific order
                      WR
                      Mims
                      Reagor
                      Pittman
                      Jefferson
                      KJ Hamler
                      Aiyuk
                      Higgins
                      Shenault

                      DL
                      Epenesa
                      Davidson
                      Gallimore
                      Blacklock

                      LB

                      Queen
                      Murray
                      Baun

                      OT
                      Jones
                      Niang
                      Tega Wanogho
                      Jackson

                      IOL
                      Ruiz
                      Hunt

                      CB
                      Gladney
                      Jaylon Johnson
                      Terrell
                      Arnette

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                      • Pittman reminds me a ton of Jordy. QBs best friend, big body, blocks, sneaky fast, sneaky agile for size. Rodgers did well with Jordy.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                          I'm not saying you're right or wrong or whatever, but I've read a few articles about how receivers are very much de-emphasizing the 3-cone in their training and that's why scores are so much lower the past two years. Apparently it is bad for their bodies or something? I'm not totally clear on what the reason was for de-emphasizing.
                          3 cone scores were lower for every position group this year.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                            Duvernay gets going fast off the LOS his acceleration is damn good. Although I agree that he is stiff through his core and hips and he struggles to get his hips flipped, he does a really nice job of sinking his his hips to adjust his center of gravity to improve his balance.

                            We can argue all day about who and where a player should be drafted, but the reality is there are 15 to 20 guys in this draft that could easily make and impact in the NFL in 2020, which probably means there will be a ton of duds in 2020 with only 4 or 5 making a positive impact in 2020.
                            Which is why I have Porche ahead of him. Porche is the better natural route runner with the best hands in the draft. His natural movements are far superior to Duvernay. I once again would take short area quickness with ability to separate in small places over deep speed.

                            We need someone to mix the drink from the slot and “move the chains”. If they fail to hit on Reagor, Hamler, Aiyuk then Porche provides an option in 4th-5th round. He screams Randall Cobb to me with Porche having better hands.

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                            • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                              Which is why I have Porche ahead of him. Porche is the better natural route runner with the best hands in the draft. His natural movements are far superior to Duvernay. I once again would take short area quickness with ability to separate in small places over deep speed.

                              We need someone to mix the drink from the slot and “move the chains”. If they fail to hit on Reagor, Hamler, Aiyuk then Porche provides an option in 4th-5th round. He screams Randall Cobb to me with Porche having better hands.
                              Draft Network
                              James Proche
                              "Routes are not crisp, his breaks are rounded and his hips are tight. Creative working after the catch but you won’t find him breaking tackles on tape. Struggles to free himself when crowded early in his routes. Struggles to gain quick leverage and pull away due to his short strides."

                              Be consistent

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                              • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                                Draft Network
                                James Proche
                                "Routes are not crisp, his breaks are rounded and his hips are tight. Creative working after the catch but you won’t find him breaking tackles on tape. Struggles to free himself when crowded early in his routes. Struggles to gain quick leverage and pull away due to his short strides."

                                Be consistent
                                And 24/7 Sports says

                                “He's got fantastic hands, he's got good route running, especially in short and small spaces”

                                I can find an opinion to go either way on any of these guys if I look hard enough. I’m going by what I see when I WATCH THE FILM so I am being as consistent as I can.

                                Thank You

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