2020 NFL Draft: Underated vs Overated players.

[Deputy Nutz]

I love the NFL draft. It might be my favorite sports related event of the year. As I am watching film on these guys and reading the reviews of other sites and "experts" I get frustrated because there are some players which I like a lot but not great reviews on, and then their are others where I can't believe the fan fair. I will continue to add to this thread as the draft nears. Please feel free to add.

Overrated
Isaiah Simmons

The guy is just a hair under 6'4" and 240 pounds and runs under a 4.4 forty, whats not to like? I think he plays the game with the mentality of a defensive back. I do not see him holding the edge or point of attack with the physicality that an OLB needs to have. His instinct are only so so.
I would be nervous drafting him with a top 5 pick, especially watching film on him, Derwin James was a much better prospect.

[Zool]

Is he going to be an edge, or will he be a hybrid LB/Safety? He's fast enough to play the Charles Woodson role.

[Cheesehead Craig]

There's a whole lot of tentative about him. Physical and testing wonder, but can he elevate his game to the physicality of the NFL?

[run pMc]

Is he going to be an edge, or will he be a hybrid LB/Safety? He's fast enough to play the Charles Woodson role.

I like him. I think the top 5 hype is crazy, but somewhere in the 8-12 range he's a decent pick. He's a little unusual -- you could play him as a 4-3 Will with his range, but to get the most from him you need to get creative. Blitz, cover, run-and-hit. He could play the Woodson role but he's not Woodson, and he's not a 3-4 OLB either.

Personally, I think Jordan Love is overrated. He's got a great arm, but I think he'll need a year to sit and watch. I think pressure rattles him and I'd like to see more accuracy and touch from him. Still, there's enough there for a team to fall in love with and take a late Round 1 flyer on him I guess...and if that pushes a good player down to GB, all the better. I'd be scared to take him inside the top 20 though because that probably means your current QB stinks and there will be pressure to play him before he's ready.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo67gdl5yKY

Patrick Queen makes a few good plays showing off some range in this clip, but I think he's a late Round 1 too.

[Bretsky]

Jordan love looked pretty good in his sophomore year

Then with a new OC and nine new starters he was rough as a Junior.

He will be .interesting to watch

[Deputy Nutz]

Overrated
Tua Tagovailoa QB Alabama

Even if we get passed the hip injury the guy has also had a serious ankle injury in the last two seasons. He is not a typically big QB, plus he is left handed and although that isn't a reason to dismiss anyone, receivers do have to adapt to the ball coming out of a left hand versus a righty. Also, How good will Tagovailoa be when he is throwing to average NFL receivers going against an NFL secondary? He has played with almost all receivers that have been drafted in the first round, not to mention several first round caliber offensive linemen. The injuries are a huge concern for me along with how he handles pressure in his face and although he isn't a turnover machine some of his turnovers have come in situations that put his team in a tough situation. I struggle to see him drafted within the top 5 picks of the draft, I see that as a huge risk. Is he a first round pick? Absolutely, but I predict his failure rate will be a lot higher with Tua.

[Zool]

So, Marcus Mariota with a college injury history?

[Deputy Nutz]

So far my two posts have been about guys in that project in the first 5 picks in the draft. Now we take a little turn.

Underrated

Davion Taylor OLB Colorado

While in high school Taylor wasn't allowed to play football on Friday nights due to religious reasons. He was scouted at a workout by a junior college team and signed. Two years later he signed with Colorado. Obviously he is raw, but he certainly brings traits that NFL teams covet in defensive players. A 4.49 forty, a 35" vertical jump, 21 reps on the bench, 127" broad jump, and sub 7 second three cone drill. He is another type of hybrid player that is the combination of defensive back and outside linebacker. There isn't much film on him but I did find his 2019 film against Oregon. The film doesn't offer much as mostly he is playing a nickel and is in coverage. It's average coverage but I think he is an underrated player that could be a project with a huge ceiling.

[smuggler]

My WR that I feel is overrated is Shenault. I'm convinced this dude will not succeed in the NFL, and that's not even considering his injury woes. I cringed every time I saw him mocked to us. The injury pushes him out of the first round, but I don't think he will succeed as a WR anywhere he's drafted.

[run pMc]

Davion Taylor OLB Colorado

While in high school Taylor wasn't allowed to play football on Friday nights due to religious reasons. He was scouted at a workout by a junior college team and signed. Two years later he signed with Colorado. Obviously he is raw, but he certainly brings traits that NFL teams covet in defensive players. A 4.49 forty, a 35" vertical jump, 21 reps on the bench, 127" broad jump, and sub 7 second three cone drill. He is another type of hybrid player that is the combination of defensive back and outside linebacker. There isn't much film on him but I did find his 2019 film against Oregon. The film doesn't offer much as mostly he is playing a nickel and is in coverage. It's average coverage but I think he is an underrated player that could be a project with a huge ceiling.

Yeah I've watched a little of him. The video I watched had him out in coverage in the slot a LOT, so he should be able to do that.
I thought after the combine he might move up quite a bit as a good tester/athlete, which is definitely is. He is also raw... he's someone worth a late Day 3 pick to develop and certainly could play him on ST, but he's not ready to start.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Overrated
Tua Tagovailoa QB Alabama

Even if we get passed the hip injury the guy has also had a serious ankle injury in the last two seasons. He is not a typically big QB, plus he is left handed and although that isn't a reason to dismiss anyone, receivers do have to adapt to the ball coming out of a left hand versus a righty. Also, How good will Tagovailoa be when he is throwing to average NFL receivers going against an NFL secondary? He has played with almost all receivers that have been drafted in the first round, not to mention several first round caliber offensive linemen. The injuries are a huge concern for me along with how he handles pressure in his face and although he isn't a turnover machine some of his turnovers have come in situations that put his team in a tough situation. I struggle to see him drafted within the top 5 picks of the draft, I see that as a huge risk. Is he a first round pick? Absolutely, but I predict his failure rate will be a lot higher with Tua.

I was going to post about him and you beat me to it! He had so much superior talent around him that it really is hard to judge him. I agree with your points and I wouldn't even take him top 10. He may be the Rodgers-fall QB of this draft. His injuries scare the hell out of me.

[Deputy Nutz]

Underrated Alert!!!

Jack Driscol OT Auburn 6'5" 305 -

Driscol was a four year starter with his last two coming at Auburn. He has to gain a little a good weight and get stronger in his lower body, but the guy has some really good feet and if teams that value or need other positions early in the draft then Driscol could be a guy that could be had on day 3 of the draft. He understands how to move his body to create lanes in the running game and how to protect the QB. The Fact is that I like both of the Auburn tackles in this draft . Driscoll has good timing off the snap, and all though I would like to see him engage the defender sooner on the edge he does a decent job of tracking, and getting his hands on them. Driscoll does and can get beat by a rusher's first move but he really does a nice job of recovery by keeping his feet moving. An NFL offense good really be a boost for him along with an experienced NFL QB.

[smuggler]

Simmons reminds me of Aaron Curry. In both the good ways and, potentially, the bad.

Bretsky, your signature is strange. The TJ Watt comment makes sense because we had a shot at him and passed, but not so with Devin Bush.

Julio Jones would have also looked good in Green and Gold. And Zack Martin.

[Upnorth]

Rashon gary.

[Bretsky]

Simmons reminds me of Aaron Curry. In both the good ways and, potentially, the bad.

Bretsky, your signature is strange. The TJ Watt comment makes sense because we had a shot at him and passed, but not so with Devin Bush.

Julio Jones would have also looked good in Green and Gold. And Zack Martin.

LOL; it's was reported by both ESPN and NFLN that Denver was taking calls to move down but they were trying not to lose many spots. It would not have been hard for Gooter to jump two spots there; that was the right call. Pittsburg just was the beneficiary of our not making the call. Sound Familar ???