STOP THE INSANITY RANT---THE CASE OF THE OVERPAID POSITION OF QUARTERBACK

[Bretsky]

Anybody on this universe think fricking

Zak Prescott is worth 35-40 Million a year ?

How about Goff for $33 Million a year ?

Kirk Cousins for 33 Million a year ?

How about Tannehill at 29.5 Million a year ?

How about Jimmy G for 27.5 Million a year ?


What Level of Susan Powers insanity will this hit, or will it just NEVER END ?


As the great Vince Lombardi would say, WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOING ON IN HERE ????????




THE RECIIPE FOR WINNING SUPER BOWL'S seems to be find a QB who will give you a deal (I can only think of Tom Brady who did that for a while) , or win a Super Bowl with a rising QB on his first contract

The Rams are dying because they grossly overpaid Goff when they needed to keep their defense

Jerry Jones is in a no win situation knowing he's going to kill his talent by overpaying a slightl above average QB in Prescott over 35MIL/Yr

But what can he do ?

The Vikings and Titans just got done screwing themselves by grossly overpaying average QB's


Unless you have a truly elite QB, is it really worth paying your QB over 25% of the cap on a roster over 50 players ?


As unpopular as it would be, I can see the case for trading Prescott, and even Rodgers with the goal of drafting an elite QB and surrounding him with superior talent for a 4 year run.

OR

Find a way to get Tom Brady to brainwash your QB to take less money so the funds can be used for other talent......P.S. IT ALSO HELPS TO HAVE HOODY GENIUS and HOODY GENIUS JR running the show

[texaspackerbacker]

I agree, those amounts border on insane. NFL owners are making enough, though, that they can afford it. Of that group mentioned, Dak Prescott is the head of the class, but even he isn't worth it.

Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, maybe Stafford, Brees a couple of years ago, that's about all I can think of that I'd pay top money for. Kyler Murray may get there, but not yet.

edit: I forgot to include Mahomes.

[mraynrand]

How many decent starting QBs are even in the league rn? Once you answer this question, you'll realize why teams overpay.

[Joemailman]

The problem is the lack of quality backup QB's on most teams. At other positions, teams let high-priced veterans leave all the time to be replaced by younger, lower paid talent. But if Jerruh doesn't sign Prescott, does he have a chance to win with Cooper Rush? Few teams have a #2 they feel they can win with.

[Bretsky]

How many decent starting QBs are even in the league rn? Once you answer this question, you'll realize why teams overpay.

How many decent QB's win Super Bowls ?

[texaspackerbacker]

There's a consistent whine in here about how close the Packer are to the cap and what a struggle it is. I wonder how the Cowboys are doing it - Dak now, Zeke previously, Cooper, a high price O Line, 2 new fairly recent all pro D Linemen, DeMarcus Lawrence who makes a ton of money, Jaylon Smith, etc. They are subject to the same limits that we are.

[Bretsky]

The problem is the lack of quality backup QB's on most teams. At other positions, teams let high-priced veterans leave all the time to be replaced by younger, lower paid talent. But if Jerruh doesn't sign Prescott, does he have a chance to win with Cooper Rush? Few teams have a #2 they feel they can win with.

Dallas has a pretty decent surrounding cast.

Trade Prescott and draft a top QB and keep the talent

[call_me_ishmael]

Dallas has a pretty decent surrounding cast.

Trade Prescott and draft a top QB and keep the talent

This is 100% what I would do. I think paying QBs is overrated these days given the success of recent high draft picks. No way would I pay mediocre Dak that money.

[QBME]

The mills of the gods grind slowly, but grind finely.
Slowly but surely the owners will come to realize that the big dollars need to be invested in General Managers, Coaching Staff’s, and especially Scouting Staffs. There is no cap on those investments. Find the right combination on that triumvirate and you can win no matter the player salary cap.
Kinda like Billy Beane.
Sure you can have a really, really good player, maybe even great, but what price?? Football is the ultimate team game. As soon as everybody is equal in all aspects, the sooner the team goal is achieved.

See: Vince Lombardi

[Bretsky]

This is 100% what I would do. I think paying QBs is overrated these days given the success of recent high draft picks. No way would I pay mediocre Dak that money.

Slightly above average QB's should not be paid above the elite's.

But the QB mentality seems to be WHO'S NEXT

Each new constract beats the one before.

I'd have traded Dak ; I think they could find a sucker to give them a 1st.

And trade up for a top QB.

[mraynrand]

How many decent QB's win Super Bowls ?

one each year

[Bretsky]

one each year

Decent QB's are the average yoyo's that are getting all this money.

Lately elite QB's win Super Bowls are very good to great QB's who are cheap and on their first contract

[smuggler]

It's not the sum of money itself that matters. It's all about the economic use of the salary cap. Giant totals are going to happen. But, I gotta say, I would not be putting 18% of my salary cap into Dak Prescott. He's a good player, but the thing that makes Dallas a formidable team is their talented roster, not Dak. That's why they should have cut bait with him north of 15%.

[bobblehead]

How many decent starting QBs are even in the league rn? Once you answer this question, you'll realize why teams overpay.

But his point, and mine for past 18 months or so, is that paying a merely "decent" QB like he is a game changer kills your cap and leaves you unable to retain/obtain talent.

Give me Blake Bortles for practically free. Find me any number of game managers who do the basics. Combine them with a monster run game and defense. Unless you have a young Rodgers or Maholms paying a QB 30M a year is insane.

Edit: Saints went 5-0 without Brees. They found a good game manager they weren't paying much and won.

[mraynrand]

But his point, and mine for past 18 months or so, is that paying a merely "decent" QB like he is a game changer kills your cap and leaves you unable to retain/obtain talent.

Give me Blake Bortles for practically free. Find me any number of game managers who do the basics. Combine them with a monster run game and defense. Unless you have a young Rodgers or Maholms paying a QB 30M a year is insane.

Edit: Saints went 5-0 without Brees. They found a good game manager they weren't paying much and won.

Fair enough, but here's what he got paid:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/teddy-bridgewater-14441/