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  • #91
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get the point. Fire Ted.

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    • #92
      By the way, were in need of a ghost writer for Ted Is Trapped In The Closet - Chapter 73. Any takers?

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      • #93
        This is one of the few moves that TT's made that I feel good about.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Kiwon
          This is one of the few moves that TT's made that I feel good about.
          I'll drink to that!

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          • #95
            It doesn't matter if he stays sober now - he's already been caught. Unless there's a magical bullet out there, like it was his identical twin and not him, he'll soon be done.

            It doesn't even matter if he broke the law or not. He was in the NFL's substance abuse program. As soon as he was caught having a drink, he was going to be suspended. Doesn't matter if he was having that drink sitting as his own kitchen table.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Guiness
              It doesn't matter if he stays sober now - he's already been caught. Unless there's a magical bullet out there, like it was his identical twin and not him, he'll soon be done.

              It doesn't even matter if he broke the law or not. He was in the NFL's substance abuse program. As soon as he was caught having a drink, he was going to be suspended. Doesn't matter if he was having that drink sitting as his own kitchen table.
              Yeah, he's facing suspension... The question is 'when?' My guess is that the Packers did their due diligence and found that chances are, he won't be suspended real soon... Andrew Brandt is a very astute attorney and handles all football-related legal matters for the team. He has an impecable background in player representation, in addition to his salary cap management expertise... The Packers didn't go into this without knowing what they were getting...

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              • #97
                Originally posted by vince
                Originally posted by Guiness
                It doesn't matter if he stays sober now - he's already been caught. Unless there's a magical bullet out there, like it was his identical twin and not him, he'll soon be done.

                It doesn't even matter if he broke the law or not. He was in the NFL's substance abuse program. As soon as he was caught having a drink, he was going to be suspended. Doesn't matter if he was having that drink sitting as his own kitchen table.
                Yeah, he's facing suspension... The question is 'when?' My guess is that the Packers did their due diligence and found that chances are, he won't be suspended real soon... Andrew Brandt is a very astute attorney and handles all football-related legal matters for the team. He has an impecable background in player representation, in addition to his salary cap management expertise... The Packers didn't go into this without knowing what they were getting...

                So which happens first, jail or nfl suspension?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Guiness
                  It doesn't matter if he stays sober now - he's already been caught. Unless there's a magical bullet out there, like it was his identical twin and not him, he'll soon be done.

                  It doesn't even matter if he broke the law or not. He was in the NFL's substance abuse program. As soon as he was caught having a drink, he was going to be suspended. Doesn't matter if he was having that drink sitting as his own kitchen table.
                  Pro sports have struggled with alcohol amd substance abuse. For illegal drugs, its easy. Any nonprescription use is substance abuse. But drinking is not illegal. Getting drunk is not necessarily illegal. So when does the perfectly legal act of drinking become "substance abuse" subject to league discipline?

                  If KR was under a "no drinking - at all" condition from the league it may be an easy situation for the league to rule. If he wasn't, there may be a "compromise" that is less than the year suspension.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Rastak
                    Originally posted by vince
                    Originally posted by Guiness
                    It doesn't matter if he stays sober now - he's already been caught. Unless there's a magical bullet out there, like it was his identical twin and not him, he'll soon be done.

                    It doesn't even matter if he broke the law or not. He was in the NFL's substance abuse program. As soon as he was caught having a drink, he was going to be suspended. Doesn't matter if he was having that drink sitting as his own kitchen table.
                    Yeah, he's facing suspension... The question is 'when?' My guess is that the Packers did their due diligence and found that chances are, he won't be suspended real soon... Andrew Brandt is a very astute attorney and handles all football-related legal matters for the team. He has an impecable background in player representation, in addition to his salary cap management expertise... The Packers didn't go into this without knowing what they were getting...

                    So which happens first, jail or nfl suspension?
                    I have no idea, but I bet the Packers do... They know when it'll probably come down, how much, where, and when he'll need to serve time and suspension...and they decided to sign him. Reading into that tells me that it will not happen within the next few weeks, and may not happen until the offseason...

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                    • Well - jail can be staved off for a bit, anyways. Lots of ways to slow down the court system for a couple of months.

                      I'm seriously surprised the NFL hasn't moved yet. Generally in situations like this, they suspend first, and wait for an appeal later. Anyone have any clue why they haven't done this yet?
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                      • Originally posted by Guiness
                        Well - jail can be staved off for a bit, anyways. Lots of ways to slow down the court system for a couple of months.

                        I'm seriously surprised the NFL hasn't moved yet. Generally in situations like this, they suspend first, and wait for an appeal later. Anyone have any clue why they haven't done this yet?
                        they can't do anything yet.

                        he has to have his court date first to determine if anything wrong did take place. then if he's found guilty of the charges, the nfl can make its decision based on that

                        until his court date i don't think he's guilty of anything. innocent until proven guilty

                        i've also read a couple of diferent things on this. there seems to be some conflicting reports about the incident. i just got done reading that he was clocked doing 104 on the highway, and that the cop was unable to keep up with him, and radioed ahead for help. now if the cop is stoped and clocking people, or if he's driving the other way, then he's going to have a real tuff time catching up with a car doing 104 in the first place. so there is a chance like i've said before that k-rob never knew there was a cop behind him. the cop radioed ahead for backup, and 10 miles down the road some other cops intercepted him and he pulled over and went inro custody with no fight. now the article i read said that he was given a blood test after he was taken in and that his BAC was .09, even though it was put down in the report that the field test was .11. this is something they might be able to fight in court, and maybe even get dropped if the judge is nice enough to let .01 go. now if the police chase went down like i said, they could fight that to, and say he really wasn't running from the cops, because he never knew they were back there, and when he did see a cop 10 miles later he gave up with no fight. if those get thrown out then you are just looking at the wreakless driving, and a loss of you licence

                        of course, this is the US court system, they might allow him to just plead guilty to the lesser charge and drop the others, and make him do community service

                        and as i said before, i think the nfl would have one hell of a fight on their hands if they try to suspend a guy for a year for doing what everyone else in the nfl is allowed to do. they could give him a seperate smaller suspension for breaking the law. but i think the union would go down kicking and scratching on this one

                        they could literaly drag this out for a long time

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                        • This is a good signing. Why:

                          1) We will have him at least 1.5 months before his trial. The NFL will not pose judgement on a pending case (since it will "taint" the jury) so we will have him until his case is tried (which more than likely be in the offseason.

                          2) We have a KR and a legit #2. This will help Jennings get a little more aclimated to playing the pro-game. Also, a 4 reciever set, with Driver, Jennings, KRob and Ferguson doesn't sound so bad.

                          3) Its WI people. If there is one place that can understand DUIs, its WI. I believe it is one of the few states (maybe only one) where it is illegal for the police to do DUI checkpoints. And the penalties for DUI are some of the least severe in the nation. I do not know one of my friends who has not driven after a few beers (and two beers in a half an hour will give you a .11 BAC).

                          4) We will get the scoop on the Vikings. Sorry this is cheap, but I will take every advantage I can get.

                          5) The contract was structured so that we basically lose nothing if we cut him.

                          Frankly, I think he is a better football player than Branch (who Seattle had to give a #1 and big money to).

                          While it is a risk, it seems worth taking. That's my take.
                          'Til the End

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                          • I think Koren Robinson gives us 1 more win this year...

                            Shoot, I want a top 5 pick.

                            I'm rooting for losses. I love when the Pack do well and I will enjoy wins. I want them to try their damndest and win as many as possible but when they lose, I keep smiling because I know we have another big pick coming. We could use some more playmakers.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • Originally posted by Guiness
                              Well - jail can be staved off for a bit, anyways. Lots of ways to slow down the court system for a couple of months.

                              I'm seriously surprised the NFL hasn't moved yet. Generally in situations like this, they suspend first, and wait for an appeal later. Anyone have any clue why they haven't done this yet?
                              The NFL moves quicky with players who fail the NFL administered screening tests. When its in a drug situation totally in legal system the league usually holds off until the outcome. They don't want to get caught having suspended a player who is subsequently found not guilty. The league administered tests have pre-approved conditions between the league and the NFLPA.

                              As far as the league is concerned, its only an allegation at this point.

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                              • if they go to court and plead guilty to all the other chages as long as the DWI gets thrown out, then can the league do anything anbout the drinking?

                                if that gets thrown out, is it erased for good? or can the nfl still use that as a positive test?

                                can the nfl even use it as a possitive test in the first place, or does the nfl have to do the test?

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