The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[wist43]

These picks do nothing to improve the 2020 team...

Dillion and Josiah Duhwtf will play and contribute, but their impact will be very modest.

Love of course is a long-term project - and a big project at that. He's got terrible mechanics, is inaccurate, makes poor decisions, and makes an incredible number of poor throws. He's got one hell of a long way to go before he can even serve as the game day backup.

So, given that this draft is going to provide no help this year, and Rodgers will be one year closer to calling it a career - the following might be our near term reality:

1) Rodgers will certainly be gone after 2022, if not 2021.

2) P Smith is on a 3 year deal and is likely gone after 2021.

3) Ditto for Amos.

4) Z Smith is on a 4 year deal and will be over 30, so he's gone thereabouts.

5) Bacteria will probably be gone after 2020.

6) Jones will be gone next year.

7) Adam's will be getting long in the tooth.

That's 3-4 years with no realistic shot at a Championshp, and a pretty depleted roster by 2022.

We can't expect Gute will do anything to actually flesh out the roster - so I'm guessing our best hope is that we fail spectacularly enough to be able to dump Gute and Lefluer after the 2022 season.

That's the only lipstick I can put on this pig. Horrific last 2 days for the Green Bay Packers.

[Bretsky]

Wisty, I'm alone here with my Eliott Wolf for GM sign on the bus. Wanna jump on )) ?

[Bretsky]

on the brighter side, since Gutebag pretty much sucks at the Draft, at least he utilizes Free Agency. Teams will cut some players still

We can find better left overs than the Whitewater Jesus' on our roster

[GB-Brandon]

I think you summarized it pretty spot on. I just hope we can get rid of Gute and LaFluer sooner. These two crooks have robbed every Packer fan of a couple more legitimate bites at the Apple for a World Championship. Anyone that has a half a brain can see what these Clowns are doing here. Its just gonna be a massive disaster.

All this explains why Gute went out immediately and signed Kirksey on the Cheap. Then going out and bringing in Wagner on a cheap deal. Then eventually bringing in Funches on cheap deal. Its called patching a roster up for a “Tanker Job” and little “Bitch Boy LaFluer” is right in it with him. There doing a tear down and trying to run the Tennessee Titans system with Jordan Love on the QB rookie deal. They want to get good draft picks and $ to put there new vision in place. So in other words they have decided to sacrifice some good opportunities now too implement there vision which they feel gives us a better chance later. I disagree and it’s a shame that they are being allowed to even do this.

I just want to see how this ends with Rodgers. I mean i don’t even see how the motivation level of the players could be where it needs to be with all this going on. Then there is the virus and if there will be a season or not. The only reason I see for Rodgers to even play this out is for the $ so it will be very interesting how this continues to play out.

I really hope Gute and LaFleur are gone by no later then the end of the 2022 season as you described.

There not winnng a Super Bowl here with Jordan Love. Jordan Love couldn’t even win the Fucken Frisco Bowl.

[Radagast]

I think you summarized it pretty spot on. I just hope we can get rid of Gute and LaFluer sooner. These two crooks have robbed every Packer fan of a couple more legitimate bites at the Apple for a World Championship. Anyone that has a half a brain can see what these Clowns are doing here. Its just gonna be a massive disaster.

All this explains why Gute went out immediately and signed Kirksey on the Cheap. Then going out and bringing in Wagner on a cheap deal. Then eventually bringing in Funches on cheap deal. Its called patching a roster up for a “Tanker Job” and little “Bitch Boy LaFluer” is right in it with him. There doing a tear down and trying to run the Tennessee Titans system with Jordan Love on the QB rookie deal. They want to get good draft picks and $ to put there new vision in place. So in other words they have decided to sacrifice some good opportunities now too implement there vision which they feel gives us a better chance later. I disagree and it’s a shame that they are being allowed to even do this.

I just want to see how this ends with Rodgers. I mean i don’t even see how the motivation level of the players could be where it needs to be with all this going on. Then there is the virus and if there will be a season or not. The only reason I see for Rodgers to even play this out is for the $ so it will be very interesting how this continues to play out.

I really hope Gute and LaFleur are gone by no later then the end of the 2022 season as you described.

There not winnng a Super Bowl here with Jordan Love. Jordan Love couldn’t even win the Fucken Frisco Bowl.

Wow, how uninformed and just plain wrong you are.

To start with, following the replacing of Ted Thompson as GM, Brian Gutekunst took a Packers team that was faltering under Mike McCarthy and players mostly acquired by the former GM and with new coaches/players helped the Packers to a 13-3 regular season record, an NFC North Division title, and a spot in the NFC Championship game. I'd say that that should garner some well deserved respect for GB's current GM and HC.

Next, no GM on any NFl team has an unlimited supply of money to spend. Hiring players "on the cheap" can also be looked at as, responsibility managing a teams resources to acquire the best players that the team can afford. We hear these same whiners every year, but like last season they groan and then they cheer over acquisitions like the two Smiths.

Last, the disparity between the 2018 and 2019 Utah State Football teams is not Jordan Loves fault. The 2019 team lost a ton of Seniors from the 2018 team and the school changed Head Coaches from 2018 to 2019. The 2019 coaches ordered players like Love to take greater risk with the football as they were losing games. Love's 2019 record at Utah State reflects the poor coaching that he was obligated to obey.

Experts agree that Jordan Love has superior physical skills. His decision making skills have come into question (due to his 2019 Utah State season), but I believe that a change of environment./team will serve to justify GB's confidence in him. Furthermore, as he comes under the wings of the GB coaches, I believe that he could emerge as the hoped for future of the Packers.

[texaspackerbacker]

Good Post, Radagast

[mraynrand]

The Packers picks just show that they are moving on from Stubby’s offense. And why shouldn’t they? They brought in a new coach and he wants to run his stuff. Rodgers can get aboard this season (and next and more if lucky) or he can get bent.

[wist43]

The problem is philosophical... same as with TT.

Draft " good players" regardless of position, and with the miracle of osmosis a good team will emerge over time.

My argument against Ted was that he never worked to actually build a complete team. 2010 was literally a fluke - as Ron Wolf would say, "a fart in the wind".

A more accurate measure of what the philosophy gets you is the entire decade that followed. The year we lost to Seattle in the NFC Championship game was the sole exception, when they actually acquired fit pieces in an attempt to win it all.

What Gute has done this year is a complete reset, and we are once again having to look 4 years out, despite having a roster that wasn't too far from actually competing.

We're gonna win games over the next few years, but the truth is we're not really contenders.

[mraynrand]

I’d use ‘retool’ over ‘reset’ but semantics semantics. (I’ll retool you!). Packers are actually in a better position to run the offense that gutted their defense last year. And a brilliant mind and seasoned veteran like Rodgers should be able to run it to perfection. Unless he’s lost it. The irony is it’s an offense that’s optimized for extending his career.

[ThunderDan]

The problem is philosophical... same as with TT.

Draft " good players" regardless of position, and with the miracle of osmosis a good team will emerge over time.

My argument against Ted was that he never worked to actually build a complete team. 2010 was literally a fluke - as Ron Wolf would say, "a fart in the wind".

Sorry wrist, can’t agree with you here.

TT brought one of the best 13 year runs in football to GB. We went to 4 NFC Championship games and won the Super Bowl. We went to the playoffs 9 out of 13 years. It would have been great to have won more Super Bowls but we were competing for the Championship most every year.

TT lost it mentally at the end and should have been replaced 2 or 3 years earlier by Murphy but wasn’t out of respect.

[Upnorth]

I get the love pick, Rodgers does get hurt so a good backup who we can develop to be the QB of the future.
I like the Dillon pick and think there is a ton of upside to the pick. Also last year was I believe Jones healthiest year so good pick that way.

But Debra??? My phone auto corrected deguara to Debra. Rather than change it, I think it's an accurate prediction of his impact this year. If we are hell bent on a te at this point at least grab a better prospect. This guy looks slow.....

[pbmax]

I think this is exactly the wrong read of Gutekunst's draft.

I agree that they don't address 2020 team needs, and you could read that as some kind of planning for the future.

But Gute is on record now that Love isn't here as anointed successor. His job is to get prepare and that is it and that Rodgers is the starter. I don't remember Ted saying anything that definitive when they drafted an even more qualified Rodgers.

So see my new thread for what is actually happening and how its possibly worse.

[ThunderDan]

I think this is exactly the wrong read of Gutekunst's draft.

I agree that they don't address 2020 team needs, and you could read that as some kind of planning for the future.

But Gute is on record now that Love isn't here as anointed successor. His job is to get prepare and that is it and that Rodgers is the starter. I don't remember Ted saying anything that definitive when they drafted an even more qualified Rodgers.

So see my new thread for what is actually happening and how its possibly worse.

When your QB goes 346/540 for over 4,000 yards and 30 Tds you don’t need to say much about the guy you draft in round 1 as his replacement.

[Bretsky]

I think this is exactly the wrong read of Gutekunst's draft.

I agree that they don't address 2020 team needs, and you could read that as some kind of planning for the future.

But Gute is on record now that Love isn't here as anointed successor. His job is to get prepare and that is it and that Rodgers is the starter. I don't remember Ted saying anything that definitive when they drafted an even more qualified Rodgers.

So see my new thread for what is actually happening and how its possibly worse.

If I embrace your theory I would consider GuteBAG grossly incompetent to run an NFL Draft

[mraynrand]

I see the running back and TE picks as being similar to TT drafting Raji and Matthews in 2009. Love also, if Rodgers just can't get with the program.