The Next Few Years - Rebuild Mode

[ThunderDan]

if there are no fans in the stands, then by just doing some real quick shitty math ($150x70,000x8 games) each team is gonna lose between 75 and 100 million, just in ticket revenue, not to mention game day merch, concesions and parking.

teams would be out a lot of money. if the cap just freezes, the owners would take all of that loss

i don't see that happening

You forgot the 2 preseason games.

And the business in Green Bay will get decimated also. I had a client who owned a couple of hotels in the area. It was 3 nights max rate every home game. He figured it dropped $50,000 a weekend to his bottom line.

[GB-Brandon]

You forgot the 2 preseason games.

And the business in Green Bay will get decimated also. I had a client who owned a couple of hotels in the area. It was 3 nights max rate every home game. He figured it dropped $50,000 a weekend to his bottom line.

Things are getting ready to “Go On Sale” that’s for sure.

[wist43]

By the time the season starts - hopefully enough people will have figured out just how much of a hype the whole coronavirus thing was, and the stadiums will be full.

Some states are beginning to revise down the number of coronavirus deaths from what they had previously reported - in the face of pressure to continue lying. Colorado has revised their numbers down by 23%, and the Governor is taking a lot of heat for simply telling the truth.

More still, even the revised numbers will still be high. Some states, and some businesses, have strong financial and political motivations to keep lying and try to make it seem worse than it is.

More and more people are catching on though; so, hopefully by football season the jig will be up, and we'll be back somewhere close to normal.

[ThunderDan]

By the time the season starts - hopefully enough people will have figured out just how much of a hype the whole coronavirus thing was, and the stadiums will be full.

Some states are beginning to revise down the number of coronavirus deaths from what they had previously reported - in the face of pressure to continue lying. Colorado has revised their numbers down by 23%, and the Governor is taking a lot of heat for simply telling the truth.

More still, even the revised numbers will still be high. Some states, and some businesses, have strong financial and political motivations to keep lying and try to make it seem worse than it is.

More and more people are catching on though; so, hopefully by football season the jig will be up, and we'll be back somewhere close to normal.

No they don't, there is no reason to lie about the numbers.

[SudsMcBucky]

No they don't, there is no reason to lie about the numbers.

There is. Hospitals receive an additional $13k for listing a patient as Covid. Now, I'm not necessarily saying there's intentional fraud, but the potential incentive is certainly there.

[pbmax]

No they don't, there is no reason to lie about the numbers.

There is. Hospitals receive an additional $13k for listing a patient as Covid. Now, I'm not necessarily saying there's intentional fraud, but the potential incentive is certainly there.

By the time the season starts - hopefully enough people will have figured out just how much of a hype the whole coronavirus thing was, and the stadiums will be full.

Some states are beginning to revise down the number of coronavirus deaths from what they had previously reported - in the face of pressure to continue lying. Colorado has revised their numbers down by 23%, and the Governor is taking a lot of heat for simply telling the truth.

More still, even the revised numbers will still be high. Some states, and some businesses, have strong financial and political motivations to keep lying and try to make it seem worse than it is.

More and more people are catching on though; so, hopefully by football season the jig will be up, and we'll be back somewhere close to normal.

There are plenty of places on this board to discuss these matters. But this thread isn't one of them.

Back to the topic please.

[falco]

Back to the topic please.

COVID-19 is like 6 degree of Kevin Bacon. Regardless of topic, you can find yourself arguing about it within 6 posts in a thread... :O

Thx PB for reframing, once again.

[falco]

I assume there is some sort of force majeure clause built into the CBA with provisions for a disruption like this. I can't see the owners paying full salaries while revenues decline that sharply and just allowing the salary cap to make up for it in subsequent years.

[pbmax]

This is interesting. Love's fifth year option can get kinda pricey. Even Mike Glennon pricey.

Participating in 75 percent of offensive plays in two of the first three seasons of the deal or an average of at least 50 percent offensive playtime in each of his first three seasons will set Love's fifth-year salary at the average of the third through 20th-highest salaries for quarterbacks in 2023. If Love doesn't fall into any of these three categories, his fifth-year salary will be the average of the third through 25th-highest salaries for quarterbacks. This number is currently $17.54 million.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-heres-when-the-packers-should-trade-aaron-rodgers-based-on-how-his-contract-is-structured/

I had no idea those kind of escalators were available.

[ThunderDan]

This is interesting. Love's fifth year option can get kinda pricey. Even Mike Glennon pricey.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-heres-when-the-packers-should-trade-aaron-rodgers-based-on-how-his-contract-is-structured/

I had no idea those kind of escalators were available.

Either number would be a bargain in 2024 if the salary cap kept going up like it has.

[pbmax]

Either number would be a bargain in 2024 if the salary cap kept going up like it has.

Not such a sure thing these days.

However, I am more thinking how this impacts a decision to keep or trade Rodgers (assuming they like what they see from Love). Even if Love qualifies for nothing but the basic escalator, he gets a basically guaranteed $17 mil.

If he starts to play serious minutes, the higher the odds are that the Packers sign him to a deal after Year 3. Assuming they still like him.

[RashanGary]

That 5th year option will be pricy..... But, I'm a big enough Rodgers fan and have enough confidence in his physical skills hanging on, especially with how little physical risk he took last year. Not quite Brees level *get the ball out* but a lot closer than he's been.

Unless love impresses the living shit out of those coaches over the next 3 years, I'm content with the possibility of paying him that 5th year option to see if he can play (assuming hes shown them enough for that)

The love situation is interesting. I have no guess right now.

[RashanGary]

In the sense of 6'4", an athletic 225 pounds along with a cannon arm, NFL mobility and the ability to unleash passes off balance.... Love is an extremely interesting prospect. Favre, Big Ben, AR, Watson, Mahomes, Wilson.... That off schedule skillset has been hyper successful in the NFL lately, as killing QBs has been ruled out of the game.

But as Turdbuscuit showed us in shitcago, this dude could be an epic bust.

Half of our first round picks bust. It's not like we gave up a sure Kenny clark. Shit, it could be a sherrod. We have 5 years to decide if this guy is our back to back to back HOF off schedule NFL QB candidate.

He has HOF upside, but it's the NFL. It's rare. I understand taking the gamble though. And now we watch it play out.

[pbmax]

That CBS Sports article contains my current, least favorite point:

Rodgers sat behind first-ballot Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Favre for three years after he unexpectedly fell to the 24th overall pick in the 2005 draft. Teams no longer keep quarterbacks taken in the first round on the bench for an extended period of time, as Green Bay did with Rodgers. The Chiefs essentially redshirting 2018 NFL MVP Patrick Mahomes during his rookie year in 2017 is considered exercising patience with quarterbacks nowadays.

No one was making the QBs wait three years. This is nostalgia based on nothing. Marino started 9 games his rookie season. Elway 10. Ken O'Brien 5. Tony "FREAKING" Eason started 4 games. Do you know who waiting for a year to groom himself before starting? Todd Blackledge. Because he wasn't an NFL quality starter.

[Zool]

That CBS Sports article contains my current, least favorite point:



No one was making the QBs wait three years. This is nostalgia based on nothing. Marino started 9 games his rookie season. Elway 10. Ken O'Brien 5. Tony "FREAKING" Eason started 4 games. Do you know who waiting for a year to groom himself before starting? Todd Blackledge. Because he wasn't an NFL quality starter.

So I suppose you're telling me the Steelers aren't a run-first team?