Gutekunst's 2020 Plan Revealed

[Willard]

Our GM's comments reflect exactly what I think happened during the draft. His plan was to draft one of the 5 or 6 WRs that had a 1st round grade and could provide immediate help. I think the back-up plan (no pun intended) was to pick Love if he was not selected earlier in the round.

I think the plan for the 2nd round was to draft a WR with a 2nd level grade that could be integrated more slowly into the offense. By the time we were on the clock, all of those receivers were gone. Our GM chose to pick someone that would provide immediate help to the offense at a position that does not need years to develop. So, he drafted a RB.

By the time we got to the 3rd round, he didn't have a WR on his board that he felt could provide any more help to the team than those already on the roster. He chose a TE that they liked to compete with Tonyan and Sternberger.

The problem was that they used a 4th round pick to move up to select Love. That meant that they couldn't move in the 2nd to choose Mims (if that was their choice) due to needing depth at ILB and OL.

The net result was a draft that doesn't look very good on paper at addressing our most immediate needs and probably doesn't make us a lot stronger in the short term. It may (big guess here) have strong upside in the longer term.

Yep. This happened. I agree with this rat.

[beveaux1]

One other point...ILB is not going to be their need as long as they run a 3-4. We were never going to draft Murray or Queen.

If we ran a 4-3, the MLB would be a much higher priority. It would be equal to OLB. The ILB to a 3-4 team on defense is equal to OG on offense. I believe their philosophy would be to draft an ILB or OG with a first round pick only if that player was exceptional. Fill in the blank for what OGs and ILBs have been drafted that would qualify. RBs are much the same. You can expend a 2nd on those positions, but usually not a 1st.

A QB is the crème de la crème. That's a generational pick. If they see the need for a QB and they have one on their board that has not been picked, they'll jump through hoops to get him, even if it's one or two years too early.

We've been saying for many years that picking at the bottom of the round leads to a gradual loss of talent on the roster. I think this draft points that out pretty dramatically.

[GB-Brandon]

Our GM's comments reflect exactly what I think happened during the draft. His plan was to draft one of the 5 or 6 WRs that had a 1st round grade and could provide immediate help. I think the back-up plan (no pun intended) was to pick Love if he was not selected earlier in the round.

I think the plan for the 2nd round was to draft a WR with a 2nd level grade that could be integrated more slowly into the offense. By the time we were on the clock, all of those receivers were gone. Our GM chose to pick someone that would provide immediate help to the offense at a position that does not need years to develop. So, he drafted a RB.

By the time we got to the 3rd round, he didn't have a WR on his board that he felt could provide any more help to the team than those already on the roster. He chose a TE that they liked to compete with Tonyan and Sternberger.

The problem was that they used a 4th round pick to move up to select Love. That meant that they couldn't move in the 2nd to choose Mims (if that was their choice) due to needing depth at ILB and OL.

The net result was a draft that doesn't look very good on paper at addressing our most immediate needs and probably doesn't make us a lot stronger in the short term. It may (big guess here) have strong upside in the longer term.

To me that’s bullshit if that’s his thinking. He is constantly putting the situation on the back burner. You mean to tell me with 10 draft picks in the best position group in the entire draft he couldn’t of done anything?

Nonsense. Have you not seen our receivers in action? The guys available weren’t any better?

Lol. Oh man.

[beveaux1]

I also think this draft was very high on blue chip WRs. Instead of the usual 3 or 4, there were 5 or 6 that could provide immediate help. Once you got past the top 6, I think it was more normalized. If there were usually 3 or 4 in the 2nd tier, I think this draft had the same number.

In other words, I don't think you could make a WR pick in the 3rd or 4th round that had a 1st round grade.

We were picking 30th and every other team that had WR on their list of needs knew that this was a draft with more blue chip WR prospects than usual. They selected them and we couldn't. Bottom line.

[GB-Brandon]

I also think this draft was very high on blue chip WRs. Instead of the usual 3 or 4, there were 5 or 6 that could provide immediate help. Once you got past the top 6, I think it was more normalized. If there were usually 3 or 4 in the 2nd tier, I think this draft had the same number.

In other words, I don't think you could make a WR pick in the 3rd or 4th round that had a 1st round grade.

We were picking 30th and every other team that had WR on their list of needs knew that this was a draft with more blue chip WR prospects than usual. They selected them and we couldn't. Bottom line.

Actually “The Bottom Line” is there were receivers that would of immensely helped this team. The Packers had 10 draft picks. Drafting 30 didn’t Fucken stop them from trading up for a QB. So getting a top receiver obviously wasn’t a priority.

The players were there and the Packers failed to convert. They got completely abused on the draft board. That’s the “Bottom Line”

[mraynrand]

Our GM's comments reflect exactly what I think happened during the draft. His plan was to draft one of the 5 or 6 WRs that had a 1st round grade and could provide immediate help. I think the back-up plan (no pun intended) was to pick Love if he was not selected earlier in the round.

I think the plan for the 2nd round was to draft a WR with a 2nd level grade that could be integrated more slowly into the offense. By the time we were on the clock, all of those receivers were gone. Our GM chose to pick someone that would provide immediate help to the offense at a position that does not need years to develop. So, he drafted a RB.

By the time we got to the 3rd round, he didn't have a WR on his board that he felt could provide any more help to the team than those already on the roster. He chose a TE that they liked to compete with Tonyan and Sternberger.

The problem was that they used a 4th round pick to move up to select Love. That meant that they couldn't move in the 2nd to choose Mims (if that was their choice) due to needing depth at ILB and OL.

The net result was a draft that doesn't look very good on paper at addressing our most immediate needs and probably doesn't make us a lot stronger in the short term. It may (big guess here) have strong upside in the longer term.

Smart, as usual.

[Willard]

To me that’s bullshit if that’s his thinking. He is constantly putting the situation on the back burner. You mean to tell me with 10 draft picks in the best position group in the entire draft he couldn’t of done anything?

Nonsense. Have you not seen our receivers in action? The guys available weren’t any better?

Lol. Oh man.

6 WRs were gone in first 25 picks. Who would you have picked at #30: Higgins, Pittman, someone else? Obviously Gute picked from his board rather than position of need. It is frustrating for coming season, but not unusual for a GM. 6 more WRs were off the board by time Gute picked again. What’s your pick at 62? Once you get to later rounds the prospects look a lot like the players on their team. I imagine the first 2 rounds didn’t play out to Plan A. I wish the Pack hadn’t moved up and sacrificed a 4th to pick a player that won’t immediately help—but I understand what played out was a worst case scenario regarding WR picks ahead of the Packers picks at 30 and 62..

[mraynrand]

A bit of a startling quote to me, mostly because I don’t think you want to tell guys you drafted that you really wanted other people.

[mraynrand]

6 WRs were gone in first 25 picks. Who would you have picked at #30: Higgins, Pittman, someone else? Obviously Gute picked from his board rather than position of need. It is frustrating for coming season, but not unusual for a GM. 6 more WRs were off the board by time Gute picked again. What’s your pick at 62? Once you get to later rounds the prospects look a lot like the players on their team. I imagine the first 2 rounds didn’t play out to Plan A. I wish the Pack hadn’t moved up and sacrificed a 4th to pick a player that won’t immediately help—but I understand what played out was a worst case scenario regarding WR picks ahead of the Packers picks at 30 and 62..

If what Gute is saying is true, then they really stuck with round value as opposed to trading down from 30. (Maybe they couldn’t get a good trade)

[mraynrand]

A bit of a startling quote to me, mostly because I don’t think you want to tell guys you drafted that you really wanted other people.

Maybe this is intended to placate Rodgers and other Packer hysterics?

[texaspackerbacker]

Our GM's comments reflect exactly what I think happened during the draft. His plan was to draft one of the 5 or 6 WRs that had a 1st round grade and could provide immediate help. I think the back-up plan (no pun intended) was to pick Love if he was not selected earlier in the round.

I think the plan for the 2nd round was to draft a WR with a 2nd level grade that could be integrated more slowly into the offense. By the time we were on the clock, all of those receivers were gone. Our GM chose to pick someone that would provide immediate help to the offense at a position that does not need years to develop. So, he drafted a RB.

By the time we got to the 3rd round, he didn't have a WR on his board that he felt could provide any more help to the team than those already on the roster. He chose a TE that they liked to compete with Tonyan and Sternberger.

The problem was that they used a 4th round pick to move up to select Love. That meant that they couldn't move in the 2nd to choose Mims (if that was their choice) due to needing depth at ILB and OL.

The net result was a draft that doesn't look very good on paper at addressing our most immediate needs and probably doesn't make us a lot stronger in the short term. It may (big guess here) have strong upside in the longer term.

This post makes a fair amount of sense in amongst a mass of bullshit, idiocy, and negativity in this and other threads. I was thinking too, we either had really shitty luck or we got outmaneuvered - take your pick - by having guys we wanted get grabbed shortly before we picked.

I still don't like picking a QB in the first or any early round, but apparently they saw a lot of potential in Love. And yeah, it's pretty damn hard to figure or justify the trade up and throwing away the 4th rounder, as none of the bypassed teams likely would have taken him.

Some are saying Deguarra is a helluva lot better than the experts thought ....... I guess we'll see. I didn't think we needed a TE either, but the guys who took us to 13-3 over the expectations of the naysayers apparently did think so.

Some of those guys toward the end also were positions where it seems like we had no need, but they also seem like they could be late draft gems.

What's done is done. Panicking is stupid. About all we can do is hope for the best and trust the people who by skill or luck, who knows, brought us such a good record last season.

[Willard]

Maybe this is intended to placate Rodgers and other Packer hysterics?

Probably. It always seems kind of disingenuous when every GM talks about their pick as being exactly who they wanted all along. If Gute pulled out that answer for the Love pick, I am certain Rodgers would really feel ticked off (more so than he already is).

[GB-Brandon]

6 WRs were gone in first 25 picks. Who would you have picked at #30: Higgins, Pittman, someone else? Obviously Gute picked from his board rather than position of need. It is frustrating for coming season, but not unusual for a GM. 6 more WRs were off the board by time Gute picked again. What’s your pick at 62? Once you get to later rounds the prospects look a lot like the players on their team. I imagine the first 2 rounds didn’t play out to Plan A. I wish the Pack hadn’t moved up and sacrificed a 4th to pick a player that won’t immediately help—but I understand what played out was a worst case scenario regarding WR picks ahead of the Packers picks at 30 and 62..

They could of gotten almost any receiver they wanted in the draft as they had plenty of ammunition. Aiyuk went one spot before JL. Even with that Mimms and Higgins were on the board at 30. They also could of traded up a few spots in second and got Mims there. There were several other receiver options throughout the rest of the draft which either the Packers let slide or were unwilling to move up to get.

Once again people can’t have it both ways. On one hand it’s okay to get aggressive to go out and trade up for a back up QB in 1st round but we can’t show the same aggressive mentality to get a massive need addressed at receiver?

See, that’s the INSANITY of it.

[GB-Brandon]

Probably. It always seems kind of disingenuous when every GM talks about their pick as being exactly who they wanted all along. If Gute pulled out that answer for the Love pick, I am certain Rodgers would really feel ticked off (more so than he already is).

And I don’t pick at 62. I trade up and get Mims but it wouldn’t of ever gotten to that point because I would of “Left Love alone” and beat the Niners to Aiyuk!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Aiyuk and Dillon after round 2 would of been amazing.