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So now we’re gonna say things that just are completely false? Samuel only had a rookie season that competes with “greatest of all-time” in niners historyOriginally posted by RashanGary View PostSamuel and Sanders weren't that good. That team was more RB, te and fb strong
The 49ers used the No. 36 overall pick on wide receiver Deebo Samuel, and Samuel turned in one of the great seasons by a rookie pass catcher in 49ers history. Samuel came up big in the season finale in Seattle with five catches for 102 yards, along with two…
The offense took off after they brought in Emanuel Sanders also..
Add Kittle(The best receiving TE in Football) and this was an amazing collection of talent by Lynch. The void left by Sanders(who the Packers tried to acquire) was then off-set by the trade up to nab Brandon Aiyuk.
This is an organization doing “all the things” to build and retain a legitimate receiving corp. They didn’t just sit pat and rely on Dante Pettis and practice the Packers approach of “Mediocrity.”
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The Denver - Mike Shanahan offenses of '97 & '98 had Shannon Sharpe, Rod Smith, and Ed McCaffrey as the top 3 targets.
Smith was a UDFA gem, and McCaffrey was a R3 pick by the NYG. Sharpe was one of their best players.
It's unlikely, but within the realm of possibility, that Adams-Lazard-Funchess could approximate much of their production... the thing is, they had Terrell Davis at RB and a group of extremely well trained OL zone blocking for him. I'm not convinced GB has that.
A lot of the improvement on offense may have to come from Lazard and Sternberger. Denver had Sharpe, and SF has Kittle. If you have a great TE and a running game you can do a lot with your play action IMO with deception and mismatches...and without the need for great WRs.
I'd still like them to improve the talent/depth though. Kumerow is what he is at this point, Funchess is a rental, and Adams has about 2-3 more seasons where he'll be in his prime. Developing the next batch of WRs for Rodgers/Love will be important in 2022, if not now.
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The Packers have gone 20 straight draft picks without drafting a receiver though. Need more bites at the apple.Originally posted by Zool View PostI’m not disagreeing that more WR help would be amazing. That’s why I hate the draft though. For every Donald Driver in the 7th, there’s a Troy Williamson in the first. For every James Jones, there’s a Darius HeywardBey in the first. Marques Colston was a 7th rounder, and Roy Williams was a 1st.
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I am confused. Are you saying these players leaped, failed to leap, or were the rare exceptions?Originally posted by RashanGary View PostNot EXPECTING growth from young players doesn't match up with history.
A list of guys who for a year or two were backups and didn't do much, or starters who didn't do much for their first year or two in the league.
Brett Favre
Aaron Rodgers
Jordy Nelson
Nick Collins
Kenny Clark
Davante Adams
Aaron Jones
Lane Taylor
David Bahktiari
Mike Daniels
Zadarius Smith
Preston Smith
Adrian Amos
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Aaron Jones was the best back his rookie year as soon as he got healthy and saw the field. I don't think I am rewriting history there.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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The idea that the Packers WRs won't be better.this year doesnr account for the reality that players. Often times get better in years 2, 3 and 4Originally posted by pbmax View PostI am confused. Are you saying these players leaped, failed to leap, or were the rare exceptions?
Aaron Jones was the best back his rookie year as soon as he got healthy and saw the field. I don't think I am rewriting history there.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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OK.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostThe idea that the Packers WRs won't be better.this year doesnr account for the reality that players. Often times get better in years 2, 3 and 4Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Adams - legit #1, does everything
Lazard - showed talent in contested catch situations. The QB likes his feel for setting up his routes.
MVS has 9 catches over 40 yards in his first two years. Adams has 7 in the last two years for perspective. MVS runs well and tracks the deep ball well. Shows limitations in contested catch situations and doesn't have a feel for setting up routes. More of a situational player, to stretch the field. Probably shouldn't play on a short field or 4 minute offense
Funchess is more of a possession player with speed liabilities. I'd play MVS on a long field and Funchess in shorter yardage situations.
EQ is a wild card
Being the hopeful fan I am, I could see Adams and Lazard being firm #1 and #2. Situationally, I think MVS and Funchess could combine to be a good #3. MVS when it's a long field and Funchess when it's short.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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That's not what I said at all.Originally posted by GB-Brandon View PostWell so far we got “The Niners receivers weren’t that good”, “Lazard is gonna be a Pro Bowl receiver in 2020”, “The vision of this offense will work as it did for the 97-98 Denver Broncos”
RAH RAH RAH RAH!!! Let’s keep it going!
I think Lazard has a good chance to be a James Jones level talent. Adams and Lazard could be pretty good. I like MVS on a long field because of his speed and ability to track the ball. I don't like him in tight spaces, but Funchess could be used more in those situations. I think they're improved over 2019 because of Lazards growth and then MVS and Funchess's complimentary skillset as alternating #3s.
This is the 2020 Packers not any other team from any other era. It's about using what we have.to their best abilities, not trying to recreate something else.
Aaron Rodgers talents and the solid OL help bring it all together.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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And yeah, the 9ers receivers weren't that good last year. But that has nothing to do with the 2020 Packers other than you claiming they (9ers) were world beaters and proof positive we're screwed because our receivers suck.
We have Aaron Rodgers, a solid vet OL, Adams and Jones. The 2020 Packers have a few proven strengths that pretty much guarantee they won't suck.
How the rest comes together, that's what I'm wonderint at this pointLast edited by RashanGary; 05-18-2020, 02:05 PM.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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If there receivers “Aren’t That Good” then ours are complete trash. This team beat us a combined 50-0 in 2 first half’s of football combined. They did whatever they wanted whether throwing or running in those two games.Originally posted by RashanGary View PostAnd yeah, the 9ers receivers weren't that good last year. But that has nothing to do with the 2020 Packers other than you claiming they (9ers) were world beaters and proof positive we're screwed because our receivers suck.
We have Aaron Rodgers, a solid vet OL, Adams and Jones. The 2020 Packers have a few proven strengths that pretty much guarantee they won't suck.
How the rest comes together, that's what I'm wonderint at this point
Being positive is one thing but being completely ignorant is another.
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