2020 Wide Receivers

[GB-Brandon]

That is exactly the same logic that says keep him. 3 first round picks or maybe 2 plus a 2nd, and maybe I'd consider a trade at that time hahahahaha. That's not likely, and anything less, forget it.

i hope you have a safety plan in play.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Favre was better than Rodgers in 2008 and 2009. The 2010 season Rodgers became elite. Comparable and a little better than Favre in his prime.

Not sure about this. 28 TDs/11 ints for Rodgers was better than Favre in most recent years (except 2007). By 2009 he was as good or better than old Favre (30 TDs/7 ints)—especially near the end of the year and playoff time. Peak Rodgers ran from late 2009 to around 2014.

[RashanGary]

Not sure about this. 28 TDs/11 ints for Rodgers was better than Favre in most recent years (except 2007). By 2009 he was as good or better than old Favre (30 TDs/7 ints)—especially near the end of the year and playoff time. Peak Rodgers ran from late 2009 to around 2014.

Yeah, late 09 was probably better. But I could feel the drop when Favre left. The sacks. The slow tempo, the losses. Rodgers got it together though. Probably would have been better sooner if he started his third season

[GB-Brandon]

There is no way in hell Jordan Love is going to want to sit and watch Aaron Rodgers for 6 years, unless it becomes obvious he is not starter material. My guess is that following the 2021 season the Packers will decide whether Aaron Rodgers or Jordan Love gives then the best chance at winning a Superb Owl and keep that guy.

To even try to play this thing out “6 years” is just Insane.

Like i posted earlier, with so many moving parts I believe in this era of the NFL it’s a year to year decision of what direction things go.

[RashanGary]

Brady's most prolific years, the Moss years, he never won a SB

[GB-Brandon]

Brady's most prolific years, the Moss years, he never won a SB

That’s fine. They were on the verge of completing historical greatness. They fell a little short. I think anybody here would take a shot at that.

[texaspackerbacker]

The trend I see is you have a HOF QB that is nearing 40 and you have to make the most out of the current situation. The Packers “Actions” did the exact opposite and it had nothing to do with strapping the cap as Gute has already done that. It has to do with drafting players that you can win with Rodgers NOW!

This is not what the Packers did. They put there eggs in a different basket. You can spin it all day long but once again I’m following their “actions.” I totally get that some fans can’t do anything but “follow their heart”

As far as receivers the Packers current group is rated 27th in PFF so I wouldn’t call that “One of the best supporting casts over the last 30 years” as far as that group goes.

It's hard to dispute what you say that Packer actions on draft day said something other than "Win Now". I was speaking of 2 or 3 or 4 years from now - saying "Win Now" then - or for that matter, never saying otherwise. As I have said, that feast or famine rebuilding shit is just plain stupid.

What I will say for now, though, is that apparently the powers that be in Titletown think we can Win Now this season - without going all in on draft day. And after 13-3 and probably a little bit of improvement, I sure wouldn't bet against it.

[pbmax]

That "an attempt to take 2 steps back in an attempt to then eventually take 3 forward" is exactly what the Packers haven't done in at least 3 decades and what I would absolutely HATE for them to do. That's the "feast or famine" thing I mentioned in the other post. Spare us from that shit!

The Packers have remained near the top all through both the Favre and Rodgers years. Arguably, the supporting cast now is better than it has been through most of those years. I will Gutekunst credit for being better than Ted in that respect even though I don't like the recent draft. That is what maybe is relevant to this WR thread.

You're wrong, therefore. This discussion is more about Rodgers than Love, because it has to do with maintaining that "Winning Way" - which to most people is the most important thing - Win Now! ...... and then next year, Win Now again, and the year after that, Win Now again - do you see a trend there?

C'mon. What was the team record in 2008?

Answer: 6 - 10.

What was the team record of the 2006 Ted rebuilt team with Favre operating under a first year head coach?

Answer: 8 - 8

What was the team record in 2005 when Ted rebuilt the depth of the team and the salary cap?

Answer: 4 - 12

We could all find out that 13-3 was the 2007 of this era of Packer football.

But any replacement scenario means that Love must show them he can start. I actually doubt people on the team knew Rodgers would be this good, but he clearly did things in practice that we didn't know about. It will be interesting.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd never defend Ted Thompson about anything - other than blundering into picking Aaron Rodgers, of course. At least one or more of those bad seasons were due to Rodgers being hurt, of course. You know what I mean when I'm talking about "feast or famine" - the Giants, Houston, Miami, I think, and several others, the Niners were also that way at one point, probably others. I hate that, and I want no part of it for my team.

[pbmax]

I'd never defend Ted Thompson about anything - other than blundering into picking Aaron Rodgers, of course. At least one or more of those bad seasons were due to Rodgers being hurt, of course. You know what I mean when I'm talking about "feast or famine" - the Giants, Houston, Miami, I think, and several others, the Niners were also that way at one point, probably others. I hate that, and I want no part of it for my team.

That "an attempt to take 2 steps back in an attempt to then eventually take 3 forward" is exactly what the Packers haven't done in at least 3 decades and what I would absolutely HATE for them to do. That's the "feast or famine" thing I mentioned in the other post. Spare us from that shit!

I don't know how to reconcile these two posts.

Unless you are saying the Ted Thompson years don't count out of the last 30.

[texaspackerbacker]

When did I ever say anything positive about Ted Thompson? He absolutely did not maximize the Aaron Rodgers years. He did not, however, consciously tear down the team - trading top players for draft picks, etc. Thus, except for those injury-fucked seasons, the Packers were always close.

[pbmax]

When did I ever say anything positive about Ted Thompson? He absolutely did not maximize the Aaron Rodgers years. He did not, however, consciously tear down the team - trading top players for draft picks, etc. Thus, except for those injury-fucked seasons, the Packers were always close.

Didn't he trade Favre?

[ThunderDan]

When did I ever say anything positive about Ted Thompson? He absolutely did not maximize the Aaron Rodgers years. He did not, however, consciously tear down the team - trading top players for draft picks, etc. Thus, except for those injury-fucked seasons, the Packers were always close.

So he did exactly what you wanted to keep the Packers a winning franchise and you can’t find anything positive to say about him.

[sharpe1027]

This is not what the Packers did. They put there eggs in a different basket. You can spin it all day long but once again I’m following their “actions.” I totally get that some fans can’t do anything but “follow their heart”

Honest question. Do you have any idea how condescending you sound?

[texaspackerbacker]

So he did exactly what you wanted to keep the Packers a winning franchise and you can’t find anything positive to say about him.

I'll try to answer two posts with one. pbmax, obviously the Favre trade was something else entirely. The Packers were in the same position they may be in four years from now. No good choice, but the lesser evil.

ThunderDan, you have a point there, and I will give him some credit for that. However, his hatred for grabbing free agents from other teams was terrible. Based on last season anyway, Gutekunst is a breath of fresh air in that.