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  • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    I don't know I'm as sure of myself on what gute is thinking as you are. You really should find a way to take advantage of that talent
    Trust me. I do.

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    • Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
      I think it was just a case of loving the player, not a forced move with the intention to remove Rodgers. But hey, we all have different opinions on what gute might thinking
      If you are jumping off the reservation and ignoring immediate needs on a team one game from the Super Bowl for just some “Love Affair” with a player that plays the same position as the best player on your team that has almost zero chance of helping you “NOW” then your not the right person for the job.

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      • This was done with a clear direction of the future being Jordan Love as soon as he can. All the subsequent moves point to this.

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        • Why would anyone pay a QB 34 Million or even 24 million to hand the ball off “over and over”

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          • In 2005 they weren’t “changing the whole offense” to become some run heavy team.

            They had a QB that was threatening to retire every year.

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            • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
              That's true, but do you also say he got unlucky with the failed signings? If not, are you being unbiased in your assessment? There's an element of luck to every signing.
              Maybe, but almost all were fringe guys who were predictably mediocre. Chillar, Saturday, etc. were never gonna be anything special. When players like that play down to expectations, it's not bad luck. When somebody like Pickett rises to being comparatively decent, that's beyond expectations. To put it in current terms, if Rick Wagner or Devin Funchess become quality starters, it's about like Pickett doing so.
              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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              • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post

                Sorry this is so hard for you. It was for me as well.

                Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                  Go look at the cap situation. Gute already “Sold Out For Now.” We’re not keeping certain guys next year. The “Time Was Now” Based on contracts that were given and moves made including giving Rodgers that huge contract just two years ago with tons of guaranteed $.

                  The FINAL MOVES were needed to be made and weren’t. It’s like they got halfway in and then decided to pull out. Now everyone is scratching their heads trying to figure it out.

                  Like Bretsky posted it appears behind closed doors LaFluer and Gute don’t believe Rodgers is Elite anymore.
                  I don't think that is it. I think Gute thinks his future is tied to getting another better than Pro Bowl talent at QB.

                  The WR thing started after Adams was drafted.

                  Lack of ILB has been the case since Desmond Bishop got hurt.

                  Drafting D and only D happened after 2011.

                  I think D&D in the 2nd and 3rd round were the sop to The Flower, not the QB. Otherwise, why chase Lock last year? The H back was, in part, a recommendation from his friend, who was his college coach.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    I don't think that is it. I think Gute thinks his future is tied to getting another better than Pro Bowl talent at QB.

                    think D&D in the 2nd and 3rd round were the sop to The Flower, not the QB. Otherwise, why chase Lock last year? The H back was, in part, a recommendation from his friend, who was his college coach.
                    I agree with this. If we hadn't drafted Love, Rodgers gets hurt, and the team goes 5-11, we draft high but we would still be a 10 win team with a healthy Rodgers. Drafting a QB with that high pick would look like
                    we're rebuilding and that would be the impression given to the fans.

                    This pick of Love almost looks like we were drafting from a position of strength, with a 13 win team that made the NFC Championship game and could afford to take a flyer on a QB that had impressive talent and had slipped to us.

                    I also think the 2nd and 3rd round picks were LaFleur picks because he felt they could be plug and play and could help the team now.

                    We'll see if that's true. I think they needed a WR to groom for the future, but I also thought they needed to draft a pass rusher two years ago when all they had was Matthews and Perry.
                    If I recall correctly, they took DBs and waited until the next year for Gary and the Smiths.

                    Interested to see how this season plays out.

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                    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      I don't think that is it. I think Gute thinks his future is tied to getting another better than Pro Bowl talent at QB.

                      The WR thing started after Adams was drafted.

                      Lack of ILB has been the case since Desmond Bishop got hurt.

                      Drafting D and only D happened after 2011.

                      I think D&D in the 2nd and 3rd round were the sop to The Flower, not the QB. Otherwise, why chase Lock last year? The H back was, in part, a recommendation from his friend, who was his college coach.
                      Lock last year? I believe Gute is “Infatuated” with QB’s cause you have to add Kizer to the list as well.

                      I agree with almost all these things. I’m actually fine with the Packers draft overall(I think they got some good players) if they would of addressed D-Line and WR either in free agency(other then Funches) or the draft. We basically gave up a 1st and a 4th that we could of used and took a shot with Tee Higgins or Denzel Mimms and also got a DL to potentially to help solidify the Front. That was enough draft capital to move around the board and get it done.

                      I will never “Love” the “Love Pick” unless he somehow becomes something special and then I will happily admit I was wrong. If he is just some career back up or bust or journeyman QB then this was a MASSIVE FAILURE. To take this gamble with a team that I believe was a few pieces away is just painful down to the core.

                      This whole thing has me just hoping they make some type of move now. It’s so desperate at WR that I would be more then happy to take a chance and welcome Antonio Brown and hope for the best cause we’re not winning a Super Bowl this year with current situation IMO.

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                      • they have broken you too
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
                          I agree with this. If we hadn't drafted Love, Rodgers gets hurt, and the team goes 5-11, we draft high but we would still be a 10 win team with a healthy Rodgers. Drafting a QB with that high pick would look like
                          we're rebuilding and that would be the impression given to the fans.

                          This pick of Love almost looks like we were drafting from a position of strength, with a 13 win team that made the NFC Championship game and could afford to take a flyer on a QB that had impressive talent and had slipped to us.

                          I also think the 2nd and 3rd round picks were LaFleur picks because he felt they could be plug and play and could help the team now.

                          We'll see if that's true. I think they needed a WR to groom for the future, but I also thought they needed to draft a pass rusher two years ago when all they had was Matthews and Perry.
                          If I recall correctly, they took DBs and waited until the next year for Gary and the Smiths.

                          Interested to see how this season plays out.
                          Getting beat by a team by a combined score of 50-0 in two first half’s of football is not “Strength.” The Packers are not in a position to be making luxury picks. There are a couple serious deficiencies on this roster that needed to be addressed.

                          There is also zero evidence that JL could be inserted as rookie replacing an injured Rodgers and win games in the NFL.

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                          • I think Funchess could give Rodgers the kind of red zone target they thought Graham would be until they realized Jimmy can't jump anymore.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                              I think Funchess could give Rodgers the kind of red zone target they thought Graham would be until they realized Jimmy can't jump anymore.
                              If there is a guy to get behind for me it is Funches. Some like MVS and some like Lazard and some even EQ. I like Funches as the best shot to give us some of what we need as a target Rodgers could get comfortable with and make some big catches for us. He isn’t gonna run by anyone but I think he is faster and more twitchy then Graham. The key here is kinda like with Kirsksey and Wagner with staying healthy.

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                              • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                they have broken you too
                                Not everything is a conspiracy theory. Sometimes things have rough endings because everyone is imperfect.
                                Last edited by pbmax; 05-25-2020, 05:01 PM.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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