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  • Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    All true, but frankly, who's to say they didn't get his input in he first place? Has he said nobody ever talked to him about the direction of the team?
    Well he did say “He was shocked by the Packers draft” and had to pour himself some tequila. I’m pretty sure that had to do with the “direction of the team”.

    Rodgers has even publicly said he liked the receiver Jefferson out of LSU.

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    • I know some people are high on Lazard but EQ is gonna be the guy pushed for the No.2 spot. I agree with this as I think he is the best chance on the roster they have to fill that role. Still a big long shot though.

      Should be a fierce camp battle.

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      • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
        David Johnson was packaged in with a draft pick for Deandre Hopkins and David Johnson hasn’t been all that productive lately.

        I could see where we could package one of those players with a draft pick for a player such as Corey Davis.

        I could definitely see the Chiefs being interested in Williams for Sammy Watkins Deal as they need RB help.

        Thank you for all the flattery though.
        I give you credit. The strategy of trying to trade with the dumbest man in football (O'Brien) is a good start. And I definitely would be onboard with a cory Davis deal. Sammy? He is a never was. His last 4 seasons were pedestrian. For a guy who hammers MVS, you seem enamored with a guy who has had MVS production 4 years running.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
          Okay, Mr. Never Ever Land.

          Check out what Adams did at Fresno State.



          So by this metric he completely dominated his competition and had the production. Basically nobody could stop him. Then you evaluate his tape and it is absolutely “Magnificent”. His combine scores just needed to be okay and they were. His jumps were great. In fact Thompson was asked in interview during draft about his high 4.5 40 and if he was fast enough and Thompson said “Our watch says he is” which was so true.

          This is where I draw the line between Gute and Thompson. Gute doesn’t appear to have the same “scouting eye” that Thompson has for tape and production and relies more heavily on RAS scores on combine numbers. This is where you think your getting this great high ceiling player like MVS that usually never works out.

          This is also where you think your getting the next Lawrence Taylor in Rashan Gary.

          This is also where you think your getting the Next Patrick Mahommes with Jordan Love.

          Yet none of these guys have the production to back it up!!!!!

          See a pattern here? I am starting to really miss a healthy Ted Thompson.
          Awesome strawman. Yea, I have never pimped Gary or Love. I have openly hated on both picks. But hey, keep lighten it up sparky. Here, let me try that game. You love pedophiles and think there should be no jail sentence for that behavior...you are sick man.

          edit: And ffs learn the difference between Your and You're. I hate being the grammar police, I leave that to tex, but you do it over and over and it's annoying. (or its annoying if you prefer)
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
            According to PFF Adams is the only one with a real positive score of “Getting Open” or beating press coverage consistently. I’ve seen cut up screen shots that have shown some things but tough to say on those things as a whole. Things are different live and Rodgers doesn’t have a long history of just missing wide open receivers. Does he not like LaFleur’s offense? That’s possible but as far as I’m concerned Rodgers is more special then Murphy, Gute, Pettine and Flower Boy combined. None of them are anything special and the wrong people were brought in to replace the last regime IMO which will prove to be more costly then the cap situation moving forward.

            When this Jordan Love gets in there people are gonna realize real quick how good they had it. He will “throw the ball”, that’s for sure as he showed that at Utah State last year for 17 interceptions. This dude is a pick machine. Running the football and throwing picks doesn’t mix either. Lol. We’re gonna see him sooner then later. That’s for sure.
            I've seen this post 100x. Substitute a few names, mainly Favre for Rodgers and Rodgers for Love. Now it all makes more sense. You worship Rodgers. He can do no wrong, so all his failings (like not diving for a fumble in NFCC) are forgiven and obviously the fault of everyone else.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
              Rodgers used to throw “inside Man Beaters” to J. Finley, Jordy and Jennings all the time. Cobb too. Still does to Adams at times. We don’t have anyone that can beat man press release to the inside. All they have to do is double Adams. Not Rodgers Fault!!!!

              Go get some weapons and quit fuken around!!!
              No, he didn't. This post if pure fantasy. I have bitched for years that the TE beating the middle of the field has been gone since the days of Favre. Finley was mostly effective on the edges....same as Cook.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                No, he didn't. This post if pure fantasy. I have bitched for years that the TE beating the middle of the field has been gone since the days of Favre. Finley was mostly effective on the edges....same as Cook.
                Finley broke his neck running a post though I thought?
                Last edited by GB-Brandon; 08-15-2020, 07:52 PM. Reason: Typo

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                • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  I've seen this post 100x. Substitute a few names, mainly Favre for Rodgers and Rodgers for Love. Now it all makes more sense. You worship Rodgers. He can do no wrong, so all his failings (like not diving for a fumble in NFCC) are forgiven and obviously the fault of everyone else.
                  Probably because some of us have been waiting about 3 to 4 years now for the front office to put the correct pieces around Rodgers.

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                  • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    I give you credit. The strategy of trying to trade with the dumbest man in football (O'Brien) is a good start. And I definitely would be onboard with a cory Davis deal. Sammy? He is a never was. His last 4 seasons were pedestrian. For a guy who hammers MVS, you seem enamored with a guy who has had MVS production 4 years running.
                    I’m not hammering MVS. I’m simply being realistic of what he is. Your the one in fantasy land trying to bring up this “2nd year slump” comparison too D. Adams which quite frankly has gotten ridiculous. I’ve seen some Packer fans do this just about every year now with a handful of receivers that have all pretty much busted out or were blah.

                    The reality is none of them could carry Adams lunch and just weren’t as “Talented Football Players” as Adams. You can sit there and develop all you want but statistics prove 7th round Donald Drivers are much harder to find then a 2nd round D. Adams and the Packers have actually proved the statistic true over the last 10 years!!!

                    It’s simple Fucken math. Go look at the list of all the picks over the last 10 years.

                    As far as your big pipe dream MVS I’ll post it one more time for you. He is tight hipped and lacks explosion. Has average hands and lacks confidence at times is an issue. He is a long strider and has deep speed but takes a few step to get to top gear. Still not a great route runner and struggles against press coverage.

                    Best case scenario is a “Situational 3” where he can get matched favorably 1 on 1 and his long speed can be used to stretch the defense for potential big plays.

                    That’s where we’re at with this guy. Take it or leave it. Sorry to burst your bubble.
                    Last edited by GB-Brandon; 08-15-2020, 08:42 PM.

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                    • Watkins has never been my first choice but we’re now in a desperate situation so IMO he would be an instant upgrade and a legit no.2 in this offense. I believe he would give us a chance to help free everything up more. He has been in a lot of different situations and I’m not going to go over them all. He is a elite talent and a good football player. He wound be the 2nd best receiver on this roster hands down.

                      Once again this isn’t my first choice but at this point simply trying to salvage the season because I believe the only chance we have right now is EQ and I’m not sold that is gonna happen. Believe it or not I am hoping but once again we’re in the “hope category”.

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                      • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                        Finley broke his neck running a post though I thought?
                        So my point about him not being effective doing it stands.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                          I’m not hammering MVS. I’m simply being realistic of what he is. Your the one in fantasy land trying to bring up this “2nd year slump” comparison too D. Adams which quite frankly has gotten ridiculous. I’ve seen some Packer fans do this just about every year now with a handful of receivers that have all pretty much busted out or were blah.

                          The reality is none of them could carry Adams lunch and just weren’t as “Talented Football Players” as Adams. You can sit there and develop all you want but statistics prove 7th round Donald Drivers are much harder to find then a 2nd round D. Adams and the Packers have actually proved the statistic true over the last 10 years!!!

                          It’s simple Fucken math. Go look at the list of all the picks over the last 10 years.

                          As far as your big pipe dream MVS I’ll post it one more time for you. He is tight hipped and lacks explosion. Has average hands and lacks confidence at times is an issue. He is a long strider and has deep speed but takes a few step to get to top gear. Still not a great route runner and struggles against press coverage.

                          Best case scenario is a “Situational 3” where he can get matched favorably 1 on 1 and his long speed can be used to stretch the defense for potential big plays.

                          That’s where we’re at with this guy. Take it or leave it. Sorry to burst your bubble.
                          Oh, I admit, predicting a breakout BEFORE it happens is much harder than predicting (now) that Adams will be good despite his 2nd year slump.

                          As for draft status, also agree that 1sts have a better shot at being good, but your hero, antonio brown, disagrees.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                            I’m not hammering MVS. I’m simply being realistic of what he is. Your the one in fantasy land trying to bring up this “2nd year slump” comparison too D. Adams which quite frankly has gotten ridiculous. I’ve seen some Packer fans do this just about every year now with a handful of receivers that have all pretty much busted out or were blah.

                            The reality is none of them could carry Adams lunch and just weren’t as “Talented Football Players” as Adams. You can sit there and develop all you want but statistics prove 7th round Donald Drivers are much harder to find then a 2nd round D. Adams and the Packers have actually proved the statistic true over the last 10 years!!!

                            It’s simple Fucken math. Go look at the list of all the picks over the last 10 years.

                            As far as your big pipe dream MVS I’ll post it one more time for you. He is tight hipped and lacks explosion. Has average hands and lacks confidence at times is an issue. He is a long strider and has deep speed but takes a few step to get to top gear. Still not a great route runner and struggles against press coverage.

                            Best case scenario is a “Situational 3” where he can get matched favorably 1 on 1 and his long speed can be used to stretch the defense for potential big plays.

                            That’s where we’re at with this guy. Take it or leave it. Sorry to burst your bubble.
                            Now you are just making shit up. MVS had a significantly better short shuttle than Davante, so I think tight hipped is...well, like I said, you are just making shit up. I can't find MVS 10 yard split, but I bet it beats adams, negating your other point too.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                              Now you are just making shit up. MVS had a significantly better short shuttle than Davante, so I think tight hipped is...well, like I said, you are just making shit up. I can't find MVS 10 yard split, but I bet it beats adams, negating your other point too.
                              With MVS its's simply just watching his tape or in person at camp. He doesn't move well side to side or very fluid at all. He is more herky Jerky and takes rounded cuts. Take a trip to Lambeau and watch him if they actually let him on the field in the game. He can't beat press coverage. This dude has never really had any major production to speak of. He is just another really good athlete that isn't all that great of a football player.

                              Go buy his fucken Jersey!!

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                              • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                                Oh, I admit, predicting a breakout BEFORE it happens is much harder than predicting (now) that Adams will be good despite his 2nd year slump.

                                As for draft status, also agree that 1sts have a better shot at being good, but your hero, antonio brown, disagrees.
                                Here is the bottom Line Man. All these posts. The draft. Training Camp. The games. The bets. Etc Etc Etc Potentially Comes down to 3 and 10 or maybe a 4-6 in January and a 50/50 ball needing to be caught in the air and converted. I want fucken want Antonio Brown being the guy attempting to catch that ball over you're PIPE DREAM HERO MVS who has never caught shit!!!

                                YOU GET IT NOW? IS IT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YA?
                                Last edited by GB-Brandon; 08-16-2020, 12:13 PM.

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