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  • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
    So why are people challenging me about teams that I graded “before season” that have been ravaged by injuries? I’m pretty good but I don’t have a Fucken crystal ball of who is going to get hurt. Geez!!
    Cuz excuses are like assholes. When I told you MVS had a bad ankle last year you wouldn't accept excuses. You are like every jack off I have ever met. Makes excuses, but doesn't accept them. Loser.
    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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    • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
      Once again I’m living in a world where Adams, Lazard and MVS all don’t stay healthy. If you look around the league it’s not hard to see. We have to keep this offense humming. Having Jackson in the rotation and there to safeguard against injury I believe is worth it. Jackson doesn’t drop wide open TD’s either. That’s for sure!!!
      So at this point your concern is the 4th WR on the roster isn't starting quality. Got it.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
        This is exactly the type of game that will show what we need more of. Rodgers will hopefully once again will us to a “W” but it will be very clear what we need to add.

        We won’t have to have these ridiculous mindless discussions and debates any longer!!!!
        How is Rodgers going to will us to a W on the road against a serious SB contender when we are NOT serious SB contenders? I'm confused by your "logic"
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          You are like every jack off I have ever met. Makes excuses, but doesn't accept them. Loser.
          I take offense in this statement.

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          • Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            How is Rodgers going to will us to a W on the road against a serious SB contender when we are NOT serious SB contenders? I'm confused by your "logic"
            Because he is Aaron Rodgers!!! “That’s How.” He has been doing it for years!!!

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            • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
              Because he is Aaron Rodgers!!! “That’s How.” He has been doing it for years!!!
              I have never seen a qb will a team to a win. It is a team. Wins are not qb stats. You are into analytics (based on your pff posts) so you should know better than that. Or you are suffering from confirmation bias.
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                I have never seen a qb will a team to a win. It is a team. Wins are not qb stats. You are into analytics (based on your pff posts) so you should know better than that. Or you are suffering from confirmation bias.
                I have most certainly seen a QB cover up MASSIVE roster deficiencies and put a team on his back to claim victory over and over!!

                His name is “Aaron Rodgers”.

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                • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                  I have most certainly seen a QB cover up MASSIVE roster deficiencies and put a team on his back to claim victory over and over!!

                  His name is “Aaron Rodgers”.
                  You seem to forget though based on your posts that it's a team sport. Rodgers isn't Rodgers if the line doesn't hold up it's end of the bargain, the receivers don't run their routes correctly or get open and catch the ball, the back doesn't chip the blitzer, etc.

                  Rodgers certainly has the ability to elevate the play of those around him and make the hard throws seem easy, but he's not without his warts in his tendency to hold the ball too long, avoid INT's at all costs (obviously the opposite of Favre). He's also had bouts of inaccuracy the past few years as well which raises concerns of his decline.

                  No one player is above the team. Gute's drafts have been questionable but cannot be judged in the short term. His FA signings so far seem to be above average with Z playing like an All-Pro and Preston playing quite well as well but on lower level (although asked to perform coverage responsibilities makes it harder to gauge his impact). Amos has been serviceable and at least an upgrade over what we had prior.

                  The calls for firing him for not given Rodgers another WR is laughable when under his term we seem to going in the right direction:

                  (2018) 6-9-1
                  (2019) 13-3
                  (2020) 2-0

                  What does a GM need to do (beyond filling your fantasy of what you say is a true #2) to be considered a good GM.

                  If it's based on scoring points, the Packers lead the league in points for game. Passing yards per game - we're 5th. Rushing yards per game - we're 1st.

                  Definitely reeks of a need for a #2 receiver.
                  60% of the time it works every time.

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                  • Originally posted by Spaulding View Post
                    You seem to forget though based on your posts that it's a team sport. Rodgers isn't Rodgers if the line doesn't hold up it's end of the bargain, the receivers don't run their routes correctly or get open and catch the ball, the back doesn't chip the blitzer, etc.

                    Rodgers certainly has the ability to elevate the play of those around him and make the hard throws seem easy, but he's not without his warts in his tendency to hold the ball too long, avoid INT's at all costs (obviously the opposite of Favre). He's also had bouts of inaccuracy the past few years as well which raises concerns of his decline.

                    No one player is above the team. Gute's drafts have been questionable but cannot be judged in the short term. His FA signings so far seem to be above average with Z playing like an All-Pro and Preston playing quite well as well but on lower level (although asked to perform coverage responsibilities makes it harder to gauge his impact). Amos has been serviceable and at least an upgrade over what we had prior.

                    The calls for firing him for not given Rodgers another WR is laughable when under his term we seem to going in the right direction:

                    (2018) 6-9-1
                    (2019) 13-3
                    (2020) 2-0

                    What does a GM need to do (beyond filling your fantasy of what you say is a true #2) to be considered a good GM.

                    If it's based on scoring points, the Packers lead the league in points for game. Passing yards per game - we're 5th. Rushing yards per game - we're 1st.

                    Definitely reeks of a need for a #2 receiver.

                    We’re gonna find out soon enough!!

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                    • And Yes, “Analytics!!!!!!!”

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                      • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                        He's definitely playing at All-Pro/MVP level and it shows with the effectiveness of the offense. However the jury is still out on whether we need another good receiver or if Lazard and MVS are able to progress and play at higher levels this year without Allison and Graham muddling the number of targets.
                        60% of the time it works every time.

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                        • Originally posted by Spaulding View Post
                          He's definitely playing at All-Pro/MVP level and it shows with the effectiveness of the offense. However the jury is still out on whether we need another good receiver or if Lazard and MVS are able to progress and play at higher levels this year without Allison and Graham muddling the number of targets.
                          Yeah, Brian Gutekunst left us hanging for one of the biggest games of the season. He has been reckless with his roster building and now it might cost us in a huge game!!

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                          • Brian Gutekunst is Sooooooo Great yet he is winning mostly with Thompson’s guys!!

                            In three years he has basically developed Jaire and Jenkins!!!

                            #NotGoodEnough!!!

                            And he wants to run Rodgers off. What a Loser!!

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                            • If I thought Gutekunst wanted to "run Rodgers off", I'd be right there with you in hating on him. I don't think it's that way, though. I can't explain what seems to be a monumental blunder drafting Love. Motivation for Rodgers is a pretty shaky reason, but it's the best I can come up with.

                              As for what Gutekunst has brought in, in addition to Jaire and Jenkins - two likely all pros this season, he has brought in the Smiths and Gary, Amos, Sullivan, and Savage on D, and Lazard, Valdez-Scantling, and Tonyan on O. That's a helluva lot of contributing players in my book.
                              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                              • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                                If I thought Gutekunst wanted to "run Rodgers off", I'd be right there with you in hating on him. I don't think it's that way, though. I can't explain what seems to be a monumental blunder drafting Love. Motivation for Rodgers is a pretty shaky reason, but it's the best I can come up with.

                                As for what Gutekunst has brought in, in addition to Jaire and Jenkins - two likely all pros this season, he has brought in the Smiths and Gary, Amos, Sullivan, and Savage on D, and Lazard, Valdez-Scantling, and Tonyan on O. That's a helluva lot of contributing players in my book.

                                You judge a man by his “Actions!!!!!!” So while many are running to this Bullshit False Narrative to save face that Gute drafted Love to motivate Rodgers the fact remains they thought Rodgers was “Too Difficult to Deal With” and “He was Regressing!” I really wish I could disclose more!!!! More shall be revealed!!!

                                Most of the guys you listed are playing like “JAG’S” right now. However; the sample size is small so I haven’t given up on any of them.

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