2020 Wide Receivers

[Joemailman]

MVS was faster in his 40 time. 4.37 to 4.48. 4.48 is more Greg Jennings speed. Above average but not elite

[hoosier]

Here in Alaska moose kill more people than the bears do.

Here on the continent it's deer.

[smuggler]

MVS was faster in his 40 time. 4.37 to 4.48. 4.48 is more Greg Jennings speed. Above average but not elite

Yes, but Jennings was a much more dynamic runner. MVS is not really going to juke anyone out of their socks or make those subtle against-the-grain cuts to turn a 12 yard catch into a 62 yard touchdown. Look at what Adams just did against the Leos. That's the kind of stuff those players do, and MVS is not that kind of player.

[GB-Brandon]

If anyone feels confident in this receiving Corp heading into postseason then it’s “False Confidence.” Remember what i said a long long time ago. This whole thing is going to come down to a 3-8 or a 4-6 etc etc in January.

If you guys think a plethora of “WR Screens” is gonna get it done I want some of what you have in your cup!!!

To me it appears the playbook is “Shrinking” and that’s due to a lack of overall talent!!!!

[run pMc]

Yes, but Jennings was a much more dynamic runner. MVS is not really going to juke anyone out of their socks or make those subtle against-the-grain cuts to turn a 12 yard catch into a 62 yard touchdown. Look at what Adams just did against the Leos. That's the kind of stuff those players do, and MVS is not that kind of player.

Jennings was a completely different kind of receiver than MVS. Quicker, better hands, better route runner. MVS is more like Corey Bradford than Jennings.
GJ was for late-career Favre/early-Rodgers what Davante is now. They could stand to find another in the draft to develop.

As for the 2020 GB WRs, they've done enough to contribute mightily to a Top 5 DVOA offense. That will get you into the playoffs in most cases. Whether they can stop opposing offenses will be the question.

I'm not a fan of those WR bubble screens - teams have sniffed those out on film at this point.

[falco]

Average per carry is important, because its usually a good measure of better backs. Its not fool proof and backs can only do so much. But as a pure runner, get me the maximum yards, ypc isn't a bad measure. It tells you Jones is a better runner than Williams, even if Williams has other skills.

But to decide to run on first down at a higher than League average, you either have to outperform the D, hard if they are expecting run (and I don't think the Packers are that great at run blocking) OR you have to really believe in the 2nd down run/pass option you are going to setup to call.

Everyone is expecting more run out of La Fleur with Dillon and Daguerrotype, but I expect more passing out of this offense. Especially passing that is not out of 11 personnel running Rodgers offense. Not because La Fleur is fed up or Rodgers is declining, but because they aren't built for it anymore at WR.

[bobblehead]

I miss Pb and his stubborn streak. We indeed ran more and more effectively. We prioritized it and it led to a Rodgers MVP season. We abandon it with the Owl on the line and it likely cost us a Lombardi Trophy. You know who didn't abandon the run? Tom Brady. Ever. In his entire career.

[RashanGary]

I miss Pb and his stubborn streak. We indeed ran more and more effectively. We prioritized it and it led to a Rodgers MVP season. We abandon it with the Owl on the line and it likely cost us a Lombardi Trophy. You know who didn't abandon the run? Tom Brady. Ever. In his entire career.

This is true and while Brady is overrated in some ways, he’s still underrated in others. Guy knows how to attack a defense, including using the run game.

[texaspackerbacker]

If MVS can get over his drops, I'll take him anytime over Jennings. And I'm betting MVS does get over his drops.

Brady ain't even close to Rodgers in quality for one gigantic reason: tendency to throw interceptions. Using the run is a dubious quality in anybody, and it is almost always on the coach, not the QB, and more specifically, it is based on circumstances. It's stupid to stick with the run if the run ain't working. Passing at least gives a team a puncher's chance if your O Line can't dominate the D.

[red]

Is anyone else forgetting about funchess?

If he can shake off the rust he becomes our 2nd best wr

[texaspackerbacker]

Hell no. Funchess at his very best falls way short of Lazard, Valdez-Scantling, probably St. Brown, and maybe even worse than Taylor. Signing Funchess was a mistake. The best thing we can do now is not compound that by keeping him.

[call_me_ishmael]

If MVS can get over his drops, I'll take him anytime over Jennings. And I'm betting MVS does get over his drops.

Brady ain't even close to Rodgers in quality for one gigantic reason: tendency to throw interceptions. Using the run is a dubious quality in anybody, and it is almost always on the coach, not the QB, and more specifically, it is based on circumstances. It's stupid to stick with the run if the run ain't working. Passing at least gives a team a puncher's chance if your O Line can't dominate the D.

Over Greg Jennings, one of the league's top #1s during his prime? MVS, a guy who wouldn't be better than a #4 or #5 on most rosters in the league??

You understand that when Rodgers got the record for most passes without an INT, he passed Brady, right? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...without-an-int

[Bretsky]

Over Greg Jennings, one of the league's top #1s during his prime? MVS, a guy who wouldn't be better than a #4 or #5 on most rosters in the league??

Tex, that post was temporary insanity. Greg Jennings was about the best route runner I've seen in Green Bay not named Sterling Sharps and Devante Adams.

[texaspackerbacker]

Over Greg Jennings, one of the league's top #1s during his prime? MVS, a guy who wouldn't be better than a #4 or #5 on most rosters in the league??

You understand that when Rodgers got the record for most passes without an INT, he passed Brady, right? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...without-an-int

5'11" and a 4.48 forty compared to 6'4" and a 4.37 forty. I never had as high an opinion of Jennings as some other people. When he signed with the Vikings, I said good riddance, and I didn't expect him to be worth what they paid him - which he wasn't.

[wist43]

5'11" and a 4.48 forty compared to 6'4" and a 4.37 forty. I never had as high an opinion of Jennings as some other people. When he signed with the Vikings, I said good riddance, and I didn't expect him to be worth what they paid him - which he wasn't.

Jennings was lightyears better than MVS - no comparison.