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    ANOTHER TYPICAL NATIONAL ARTICLE-----MY QUESTION

    49ers' Brandon Aiyuk pick could cause Aaron Rodgers-Packers divorce
    https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-brandon-aiyuk-pick-could-cause-aaron-rodgers-packers-divorce?fbclid=IwAR2jSrr_SMxiT3cFB4WjjKbuhLNc-Mku0fFTpzDllnnRQpOT6tPSs8yYJ44
    The 49ers were one of the clear winners of the 2020 NFL Draft. Not just for the players they acquired, but also for the domino effect their selection of Brandon Aiyuk might cause, and how it could derail one of the top contenders for the NFC crown. The Green Bay Packers were one win away from a trip to Super…




    When nearly everybody is writing similar things, are we able to open our minds up to the idea ?


    MY REAL QUESTIONS

    1. Did GB Trade up BEFORE or AFTER SF moved ahead of them ? In other words, most think GB was trading up to pick Aiyuk although Gutebag won't confirm, or deny, which is smart.


    BUT were they stuck there before SF jumped ahead of us, or could they have just remained at 30 ? Any sources on this ? I'm genuinely curious.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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    This has been mentioned before, but if Aiyuk was their guy, they could have bailed on the offer, so this premise makes no sense.

    Move on. Nothing to see here.

    What likely happened is the Packers has Aiyuk and Love as their last two players with first round grade. Once Aiyuk went, they were worried about Indianapolis trading up to get Love (which I heard in a post draft article was the case) and made the move.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      I don't think they would trade up with the aim of taking Aiyuk unless they knew Aiyuk was available. I have to believe they traded up after the 49ers made their pick. I read somewhere that after Aiyuk was gone Love was the only guy left that they had a 1st round grade on. If so,they likely had 2 considerations: Trade up and take Love, or trade down out of the 1st round.

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      • #4
        Good topic and good posts.

        Bottom line is that the Packers seemed to want to get an impact player with their first round pick. I think they got him. It just won’t (hopefully) be this year or next. In know that’s disappointing to many, but if Rodgers commits to the offense I think he can be great in it and prolong his career, maybe even for a couple few years after GB, and maybe with at least another Lombardi in GB to his credit.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          Good topic and good posts.

          Bottom line is that the Packers seemed to want to get an impact player with their first round pick. I think they got him. It just won’t (hopefully) be this year or next. In know that’s disappointing to many, but if Rodgers commits to the offense I think he can be great in it and prolong his career, maybe even for a couple few years after GB, and maybe with at least another Lombardi in GB to his credit.
          Well fuck, that about sums this whole drama up on a paragraph.
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          • #6
            I have been following football for a long time. I could have missed a story.

            But I have never, ever read a story where the trading up team did not wait to confirm the trade until the target pick was on the clock on a draft day. In fact the normal story is that teams wait too long to confirm and run the risk of the clock running out.

            The only concern the sequence of events gives me is whether or not trading down was fully explored or if Love was truly their target after the top receivers left the board.
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            • #7
              I have heard the logistics from posters in here; but I've never ready anything that confirmed out beliefs. That's why I was inquiring about documentation of exactly when they made the trade.
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                I have been following football for a long time. I could have missed a story.

                But I have never, ever read a story where the trading up team did not wait to confirm the trade until the target pick was on the clock on a draft day. In fact the normal story is that teams wait too long to confirm and run the risk of the clock running out.

                The only concern the sequence of events gives me is whether or not trading down was fully explored or if Love was truly their target after the top receivers left the board.
                McGinn has scouts impressions on the athletic. One scout basically said Love is the second best QB in this draft and if he slipped out of the top 10 everyone would wonder why in a few years. I'm starting to think that scout was on the packers staff. I think this is the way Gutes felt. He genuinely believes he is getting a top 10 pick and future stud QB. That is the ONLY reason to do what he did. If its for ANY other reason then he is a bigger idiot than I think he is (and I do think he is).
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  I have heard the logistics from posters in here; but I've never ready anything that confirmed out beliefs. That's why I was inquiring about documentation of exactly when they made the trade.
                  Looks like they didn’t need to trade up to get Jordan Love. Seahawks were working a trade with Packers too per John Schnieder.

                  Schefter: Packers Didn't Need to Trade Up to Pick Jordan Love in 2020 NFL Draft
                  https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2890217-schefter-packers-didnt-need-to-trade-up-to-pick-jordan-love-in-2020-nfl-draft
                  One of the most controversial picks in the 2020 NFL draft was the Green Bay Packers selecting Utah State quarterback Jordan Love, both because the team already had future Hall of Fame quarterback Aaron Rodgers on the roster and because the team gave up valuable assets to trade up to nab him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                    Looks like they didn’t need to trade up to get Jordan Love. Seahawks were working a trade with Packers too per John Schnieder.

                    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...2020-nfl-draft


                    After reading about sources post draft this is what I had come to believe.

                    And giving up that 4th cost us the chip needed for a WR in round 2
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      Firstly, there’s no way of knowing. The Colts aren’t going to let anybody know that they liked Love more than Eason. Secondly, it doesn’t really matter. The Packers have been criticized by people on this forum for not trading up when somebody people have liked have been available to trade up for. Just because it wasn’t for a player you wanted, don’t be hypocritical.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #12
                        Maybe the Packers didn't even like Aiyuk. This article is pure speculation written as fact.

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                        • #13
                          Well one thing for certain is Gute is super aggressive so right now he needs to “get aggressive” and go get us another receiver.

                          I’ve heard rumors of a trade for Ju Ju Smith. Hope it’s true.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                            Well one thing for certain is Gute is super aggressive so right now he needs to “get aggressive” and go get us another receiver.

                            I’ve heard rumors of a trade for Ju Ju Smith. Hope it’s true.

                            Was reported last night that JuJu is on the market. But one year left on his contract. And he'd be tough to sign next year.
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                              Was reported last night that JuJu is on the market. But one year left on his contract. And he'd be tough to sign next year.
                              We don't have the cap space to sign our own next year. If we traded for JuJu I assume it would be a one and done.
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