ANOTHER TYPICAL NATIONAL ARTICLE-----MY QUESTION

[Zool]

Once again if you think your getting a “Patrick Mahommes Level Talent” what’s a 4th round pick?

This Love guy is gonna be watched so so closely with eye balls on every move. It will be interesting how a kid playing at Utah State and basically under the radar will handle this pressure. If things don’t start off at least in the good direction the wheels could come off quickly. Many say the Browns destroyed Kizer’s psyche forever and killed him mentally making him toast. There are a lot of unknown doors too this whole thing. I am also very curious too how far the Packers played this whole tape. I’m hoping and excited to get see him at camp this summer.

The time element of waiting is what makes a lot of this so difficult.

David Carr is still twitching in a corner somewhere.

[pbmax]

Once again if you think your getting a “Patrick Mahommes Level Talent” what’s a 4th round pick?

This Love guy is gonna be watched so so closely with eye balls on every move. It will be interesting how a kid playing at Utah State and basically under the radar will handle this pressure. If things don’t start off at least in the good direction the wheels could come off quickly. Many say the Browns destroyed Kizer’s psyche forever and killed him mentally making him toast. There are a lot of unknown doors too this whole thing. I am also very curious too how far the Packers played this whole tape. I’m hoping and excited to get see him at camp this summer.

The time element of waiting is what makes a lot of this so difficult.

Gute and you and everyone on this board knows that there is no guarantee. Except that the 4th round OL they would have selected would be a 4 year starter.

[pbmax]

Back to the OP, Bretsky could get a job writing terribly leaning poll questions if he ever needs a side hustle.

[mraynrand]

The trade up is what kills me about it.

At least it wasn't a punter.

Just close your eyes and think of Bill Ferrario.

[pbmax]

Just close your eyes and think of Bill Ferrario.

If the World League had continued to exists, Bill Ferrario would be a Pro Bowler.

[run pMc]

Jordan Love is not Mahomes. He's got some similar traits, but the sound bite that's going around about him being like Mahomes was taken out of context.

I wasn't a fan of giving up the 4th because they could have used it to either draft a player or use with their 2nd rounder to move a few spots up and take one of the remaining WRs on their board. Giving up two picks for one player can work out (Clay Matthews) but can also mean you've really spent a lot for a bust (Spriggs). If Love pans out and becomes a top 12 NFL QB (above average) it's worth it because you can build talent around that guy and win, but not if they keep trading up.

[Smidgeon]

Jordan Love is not Mahomes. He's got some similar traits, but the sound bite that's going around about him being like Mahomes was taken out of context.

I wasn't a fan of giving up the 4th because they could have used it to either draft a player or use with their 2nd rounder to move a few spots up and take one of the remaining WRs on their board. Giving up two picks for one player can work out (Clay Matthews) but can also mean you've really spent a lot for a bust (Spriggs). If Love pans out and becomes a top 12 NFL QB (above average) it's worth it because you can build talent around that guy and win, but not if they keep trading up.

Grade C-

"Calling him a project is a major understatement. He's nowhere near ready to play in the NFL. And, honestly, he may never be. Between his inconsistent accuracy due to poor mechanics, his tendency to bail from clean pockets and his lack of field vision, he's going to leave as many big plays on the field as he creates. This was a risky pick."

^Regarding Patrick Mahomes in 2017.

Love may not be Mahomes now, but it isn't decidedly out of the question that he might be similar. The odds are against him, but you can't come to any conclusions this early about what he will be. Let him develop it and get to where he needs to be first.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hmmm... read this on footballs future. Bretsky, give proof this isn’t true.

The Chiefs GM Brett Veach was asked about if he thought about trading out of the 1st round and if he had any offer to do so. He said that they were very active in the back half of the first round with teams early in the second that were interested in trading back into the 1st if their player was still there. He said after Jordan Love was selected the calls stopped coming and they end up drafting the highest player on their board in Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Validation

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/draft/veach-breaks-down-clyde-edwards-helaire-pick

[pbmax]

Predict I will now reference this find 450 times before Love's fourth year.

[Bretsky]

Hmmm... read this on footballs future. Bretsky, give proof this isn’t true.

So what you are saying is teams were willing to move to pick 32 because he was draftable there ? ))))

I get the point. Maybe others were interested.

Only time will tell if he was worth a 1st and pick and a 4th round pick.

[HarveyWallbangers]

So what you are saying is teams were willing to move to pick 32 because he was draftable there ? ))))

I get the point. Maybe others were interested.

Only time will tell if he was worth a 1st and pick and a 4th round pick.

What I'm pointing out is that there just may have been interest from other teams to trade back into the first round to draft him. People acting like the Packers for sure didn't have to trade up to get him is nonsense--because nobody knows. That's all. Is he worth it? We'll see, but wasting time machinating whether or not the Packers could have drafted him at #30 is completely worthless. He's either going to be worth #26 and the 4th OR not worth even the #26. I don't think throwing in the 4th round pick is going to matter one bit in retrospect four years from now.

[ThunderDan]

What I'm pointing out is that there just may have been interest from other teams to trade back into the first round to draft him. People acting like the Packers for sure didn't have to trade up to get him is nonsense--because nobody knows. That's all. Is he worth it? We'll see, but wasting time machinating whether or not the Packers could have drafted him at #30 is completely worthless. He's either going to be worth #26 and the 4th OR not worth even the #26. I don't think throwing in the 4th round pick is going to matter one bit in retrospect four years from now.

If the 4th round pick is Martinez, Bach or Tretter. It hurts s lot to give that up. If it is J'mon Moore not so much.

[Bretsky]

If the 4th round pick is Martinez, Bach or Tretter. It hurts s lot to give that up. If it is J'mon Moore not so much.

IIMO what we gave up in round 4 was the ability to move up in round 2 in get a WR. It sounds like we tried; we just couldn't agree on the price. I think the 4th round pick was what was needed.

[GB-Brandon]

IIMO what we gave up in round 4 was the ability to move up in round 2 in get a WR. It sounds like we tried; we just couldn't agree on the price. I think the 4th round pick was what was needed.

I said it another thread which is “A Day Late And A Dollar Short.” We constantly hear about all these “Moves” that Gute was in on like getting Mack or E. Sanders in a trade. It’s like things get a little heavy to “finish the deal” and Gute gets scared and backs off.

We need someone like J. Dorsey that isn’t afraid to “Closee The Deal”