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  • Future of the Packers O-Line

    Bakh (4 years left in the tank)
    Jenkins (8 years in the tank)
    Patrick or the Oregon center??
    Runyan/Madison/Stepanski??
    ???????


    RT is going to be a pretty big need going into next year. But the future of the line, there are enough draft picks and development guys to expect most of the spots will be filled for a number of years
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  • #2
    Well they had a chance to draft Lucas Niang in the 3rd instead of reaching for an H-Back.

    Another “head scratcher”

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    • #3
      I like Linsley a helluva lot more than Bakhtiari. For this season, we have both of them anyway. Jenkins is at least very decent with a ceiling of star quality. Turner may have been a disappointment, but he's at least a marginal starter. Ditto that I would think for Wagner. The same people who brought us the Smiths and a 13-3 record brought us him. I see Patrick as a quality back up across the whole line. Veldheer is still a free agent - if he's worth it, I think we'll sign him again. I don't have much hope for Madison, but Runyan was one of the O Linemen I was hoping for. Stepanski and the Oregon guy I don't know much about, but they are something instead of nothing.

      As I have said, the bottom line for me is that Aaron Rodgers has survived and thrived pretty much forever running for his life without decent pass blocking (and maybe reading idiotic crap about holding onto the ball too long). Aaron Jones survived and thrived last year with basically this O Line minus Bulaga who had a good year pass blocking but was nothing special in run blocking.

      We'll be ok - as good, maybe better than last season O Line-wise.
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      • #4
        After this draft I have a far better feeling about our oline than before. So much about day three showed the long term plan. At end day 2 I was thinking wtf and then round 6 happened.

        The future of our oline was questionable but now we have the choice of 5 prospects for the 2 positions of concern in 2021. Unfortunately this season depends a fair amount on Wagner.
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        • #5
          I think we get another contract from Lindsey. And its really impossible to look more than 3 years out so I would say we are set at 4 of 5 positions for the next 3 years. We may need someone to emerge at RT. We have a few candidates on the roster and I think Wagner was a safety valve, and they are hoping he finds a spot on the bench.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            I think we get another contract from Lindsey. And its really impossible to look more than 3 years out so I would say we are set at 4 of 5 positions for the next 3 years. We may need someone to emerge at RT. We have a few candidates on the roster and I think Wagner was a safety valve, and they are hoping he finds a spot on the bench.
            If they sign Bach and Clark, not sure Linsley is in the budget. Think that is why Lucas Patrick was signed and at least one of the O lineman in the sixth.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              If they sign Bach and Clark, not sure Linsley is in the budget. Think that is why Lucas Patrick was signed and at least one of the O lineman in the sixth.
              I think Jake Hanson looks like the heir apparent to Linsley. 4 year starter, zone player.
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              • #8
                I agree their OL is in decent shape; plus they will continue to neglect WR and ILB and probably draft another OL high next year.
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                • #9
                  Maybe some of ya'all who think they won't prioritize Linsley will turn out to be correct. I hope not, though. Think about it ...... where did the Packers run most successfully? through the middle. Where did LaFleur prefer to run? those outside zones - running over Bakhtiari and Bulaga. Most of the time, those plays turned to shit - blown up for loss or no gain. Similarly, where did most of the pass rush pressure come from against the Packers? the edge, that's where, seldom over Linsley and the Guards. And I think Bakhtiari seemed worse than Bulaga most of the time.

                  So if somebody is gonna be let go in free agency, I'd say it should be him. In addition, Bakhtiari seems to have a chronic maybe degenerative back injury - another reason I'd hate to see a long term investment in him.

                  With the various possible combinations, I would think they could try a lot of those and groom whoever seems to work out best for the future. As I said, IMO it wouldn't take much to replace or upgrade Bakhtiari at LT going forward.

                  This is all more like what I wish than what I expect, though.
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                  • #10
                    I highly doubt Lindsley is coming back. The combination of Patrick and all of the draft picks, including Madison.... I just don't see paying him.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
                      I highly doubt Lindsley is coming back. The combination of Patrick and all of the draft picks, including Madison.... I just don't see paying him.
                      I have to agree; and the Oregon C is a strong strong dude. They value OT and I think they keep Bach; I like Linsley but I'm guessing he gets paid elsewhere
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                      • #12
                        As I said, I've got a bad feeling you might be right. And maybe we get Bakhtiari cheaper because he's on the down side of things. I just don't like it. Do ya'all see any reason why Jake Hanson or Stepaniak or Runyan or Lucas Patrick couldn't be about as effective as Bakhtiari or maybe more so after a year or so of training and practice at Left Tackle?
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                        • #13
                          I think Hanson takes over at C

                          I think Runyan is an OG

                          Not a huge fan of Stapaniak but I hope I'm wrong
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                            As I said, I've got a bad feeling you might be right. And maybe we get Bakhtiari cheaper because he's on the down side of things. I just don't like it. Do ya'all see any reason why Jake Hanson or Stepaniak or Runyan or Lucas Patrick couldn't be about as effective as Bakhtiari or maybe more so after a year or so of training and practice at Left Tackle?
                            You want to make Aaron Rodgers laugh? Tell him David Bakhtiari isn't very good. Bakhtiari dealt with injuries much of last year and didn't have his best year although he played very well at the end of the year. In 2018 he was the best LT in the NFL. Period. You're the only one who doesn't seem to realize it.
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                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                              I think Hanson takes over at C

                              I think Runyan is an OG

                              Not a huge fan of Stapaniak but I hope I'm wrong
                              Agree about Hanson. I think Runyan could be the kind of G/T swingman the Packers like. Stepaniak is strong but will need some coaching to become more balanced in his pass sets.
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                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
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