Great analysis of pack future and 2020 draft by a writer I respect.

[GB-Brandon]

“Total Insanity”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH-WO7-KpG4&feature=share

Sometimes things even make “less sense” as time goes on.

[mraynrand]

“Total Insanity”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH-WO7-KpG4&feature=share

Sometimes things even make “less sense” as time goes on.

Confirmation bias

[GB-Brandon]

Confirmation bias

Well I do believe he at least caught the right scent that has him sniffing too Mark Murphy. Quite frankly I’m not sure who Murphy is sucking off or what dirt he has on the city of Green Bay because IMO he has been a total Achilles Heal of this organization.

If you take away his contributions away from The Title Town District he has caused more damage then good.

[mraynrand]

Well I do believe he at least caught the right scent that has him sniffing too Mark Murphy. Quite frankly I’m not sure who Murphy is sucking off or what dirt he has on the city of Green Bay because IMO he has been a total Achilles Heal of this organization.

If you take away his contributions away from The Title Town District he has caused more damage then good.

I respect your right to a negative opinion of Murphy. I’d just like some better support for your view. I liked Stubby and thought he got railroaded out in favor of Rodgers and yet I still don’t have an overall negative view of Murphy. He may have made the wrong move with the “Silos” and with hiring Gute, but it’s too soon to know that yet, it seems to me.

[GB-Brandon]

Ok, I give major props for this post. I think you have been overly dramatic and irrational for a few weeks, but I laughed hard enough at this to forgive the rest. I too needed therapy after that one...my shrink was very understanding....didn't report me to authorities for the things I fantasized about doing to fat mike.

Rubber walls, straight jackets and lots of pills.

[GB-Brandon]

I respect your right to a negative opinion of Murphy. I’d just like some better support for your view. I liked Stubby and thought he got railroaded out in favor of Rodgers and yet I still don’t have an overall negative view of Murphy. He may have made the wrong move with the “Silos” and with hiring Gute, but it’s too soon to know that yet, it seems to me.

I also thought McCarthy got hung out to dry and basically set up. I believe McCarthy could “still be winning” with the Packers if he had the adequate tools to run his offense. Winning usually has a positive effect on coach/player relationships. However, I can see in hindsight where it might of been a good time to move on from McCarthy after the 2015 Champ Game. These types of failures are difficult to recover from sometimes in the same situation. This is another reason why I have concerns with Pettine moving forward.

Murphy has never intrigued me. Some things I don’t care too discus on here. Let’s just say I’m not a fan. I believe the power structure has been compromised and based on my history leads me to believe these things start at the top. Until you relieve the top of unnecessary ego and malpractice concerning personnel it’s hard to have “real change”.

[mraynrand]

I also thought McCarthy got hung out to dry and basically set up. I believe McCarthy could “still be winning” with the Packers if he had the adequate tools to run his offense. Winning usually has a positive effect on coach/player relationships. However, I can see in hindsight where it might of been a good time to move on from McCarthy after the 2015 Champ Game. These types of failures are difficult to recover from sometimes in the same situation. This is another reason why I have concerns with Pettine moving forward.

Murphy has never intrigued me. Some things I don’t care too discus on here. Let’s just say I’m not a fan. I believe the power structure has been compromised and based on my history leads me to believe these things start at the top. Until you relieve the top of unnecessary ego and malpractice concerning personnel it’s hard to have “real change”.

I’ll just have to accept your word on Murphy and wait and see.

I agree about Stubby and the 2015 failure. ATL didn’t recover from their collapse either. Sometimes you can’t get over something like that. Players lose confidence in the ability of leaders. And Pettine will have to go if he can’t counter SF in 2020.

[pbmax]

I also thought McCarthy got hung out to dry and basically set up. I believe McCarthy could “still be winning” with the Packers if he had the adequate tools to run his offense. Winning usually has a positive effect on coach/player relationships.

This is the fact that leads me to believe "big slot", "WR-less draft" and "Jordan Love" are not a function of LaFLeur, but Gute.

It started before him. Hell, Gute wanted Lock last year.

[pbmax]

I’ll just have to accept your word on Murphy and wait and see.

I agree about Stubby and the 2015 failure. ATL didn’t recover from their collapse either. Sometimes you can’t get over something like that. Players lose confidence in the ability of leaders. And Pettine will have to go if he can’t counter SF in 2020.

Capers eventually figured it out and Matthews stopped spinning himself like a top facing that offense.

But if it takes two years, we'll be on Lovetron.

[GB-Brandon]

This is the fact that leads me to believe "big slot", "WR-less draft" and "Jordan Love" are not a function of LaFLeur, but Gute.

It started before him. Hell, Gute wanted Lock last year.

And they wanted Kizer in the 2017 draft as he eventually traded for him in 2018 when becoming the GM. He seems to be obsessed with QB’s.

I’m starting to think the same that LaFluer wasn’t pounding the table for this either.