Great analysis of pack future and 2020 draft by a writer I respect.

[Upnorth]

Bill barnwell

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29113276/2020-nfl-draft-surprises-why-did-packers-eagles-draft-quarterbacks-jordan-love-jalen-hurts

I only read about the packers, but it is a great summation of many things said on here.
I almost put this in rg's 2020 d improvement post as that is my biggest concern, but in the end figured this might spark better general discussion

[bobblehead]

So, in order:

1) "but this team is arguably the league's most likely to decline next season." No, not even close. The chiefs are most likely to decline. Anything other than a Owl is a decline. The packers are likely to decline because they won 13 games and went to the NFCC. But how about the 9ers who won 4 of the last 5 by a nose hair? (regular season)

2) ah, point differential. Yea, I get the argument, but how many TD's did we give up when we had a good sized lead? How many did we not score because we were killing the clock with a lead?

3) Fair point...we probably stole a V against the Maholmless chiefs. But I could nit pick every schedule and make a similar argument.

4) We were eerily lucky in the injury department....meh...I don't believe in luck, and so was SF. I also think losing Raven Greene really hurt our D.

5) I don't care that SF blew us out...we actually were one game away. You can say "doesn't count" all you want. What if we had played that first game in GB and gotten home field throughout. ifs and buts...but we WERE one game away. So saying yea, but were you really?? My answer is simple...yes, we were.

6) I simply love an argument that starts with the point "other than". As in other than Devante Rodgers has no one at WR. He has a true stud at WR. Its on him to use that to his advantage and elevate those around him and D. Other than AJones, he has no good RB. Other than the starting 5 he has a bad OL. duh! And don't even get me started about his best games being the ones D was watching from the sidelines.

So here is my conclusion. I really didn't want to draft a QB while ARod has 4 years left and intends to play them. Bad move, but every other point in this article is kinda foolish.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Well, it’s true that we weren’t really a 13-3 quality team and will likely regress, but the 10-6 Super Bowl champions proved that anything can happen in the playoffs.

Let’s not forget that Matt Moore played well replacing Mahomes. At KC, even without Mahomes, was no gimme. Just ask the Vikings.

We were lucky with injuries last year, but I think Greene was an underrated loss last year. He looked really good before getting hurt.

[pbmax]

Well, it’s true that we weren’t really a 13-3 quality team and will likely regress, but the 10-6 Super Bowl champions proved that anything can happen in the playoffs.

Let’s not forget that Matt Moore played well replacing Mahomes. At KC, even without Mahomes, was no gimme. Just ask the Vikings.

We were lucky with injuries last year, but I think Greene was an underrated loss last year. He looked really good before getting hurt.

Also Allison and MVS with injuries they played through.

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florio andc peter king were talking about it the other day, and they quoted bob mcgiin

basically rodgers is changing everything at the line, and not running lefluers offense. lafluer is pissed because they practice his offense all week, only for a-rod to run his own thing in the game

they also quoted mcgiin that the relationship between coach and QB is over, and the coach wants a QB that will actually run the offense

this would go along with what a few of us have been saying for a few years. a rod is doing his own thing. thirst and 2, he audibles into a long pass. that could also be why we look so good at the beginning of games while we are running scripted plays, then seem to switch to the long ball approach and fizzle out

florio thinks this is rodgers last season in GB, and then they will trade or release him with the june 1st designation to spread out the cap hit

i'll try and fine the video

here it is

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the video also talks towards the end about how the organization has completely ignored the WR position lately and just relied on rodgers to do everything

[mraynrand]

Bill barnwell

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29113276/2020-nfl-draft-surprises-why-did-packers-eagles-draft-quarterbacks-jordan-love-jalen-hurts

I only read about the packers, but it is a great summation of many things said on here.
I almost put this in rg's 2020 d improvement post as that is my biggest concern, but in the end figured this might spark better general discussion

Good find but I trust Bill Brasky more. To Bill Brasky!!

[Bretsky]

Good find but I trust Bill Brasky more. To Bill Brasky!!

Screw Brasky
Trust Bretsky

[Joemailman]

Well, it’s true that we weren’t really a 13-3 quality team and will likely regress, but the 10-6 Super Bowl champions proved that anything can happen in the playoffs.

Let’s not forget that Matt Moore played well replacing Mahomes. At KC, even without Mahomes, was no gimme. Just ask the Vikings.

We were lucky with injuries last year, but I think Greene was an underrated loss last year. He looked really good before getting hurt.

Packers should also get some credit for going 4-0 without their best offensive player, Davante Adams in the lineup. This included road wins at Dallas and Kansas City. Rodgers had his 2 best games of the season against Oakland and Kansas City during that stretch.

[mraynrand]

Screw Brasky
Trust Bretsky

lol

[mraynrand]

Packers should also get some credit for going 4-0 without their best offensive player, Davante Adams in the lineup. This included road wins at Dallas and Kansas City. Rodgers had his 2 best games of the season against Oakland and Kansas City during that stretch.

Flower Power!

[texaspackerbacker]

Bill barnwell

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29113276/2020-nfl-draft-surprises-why-did-packers-eagles-draft-quarterbacks-jordan-love-jalen-hurts

I only read about the packers, but it is a great summation of many things said on here.
I almost put this in rg's 2020 d improvement post as that is my biggest concern, but in the end figured this might spark better general discussion

If you respect the guy, fine, but I absolutely have a lower than snakeshit opinion of most of what he wrote.

I could have stopped reading when the guy said the Packers were the tenth best team in the league, but I slogged through to the end, and it became more and more apparent that he is just another outsider who doesn't have a clue about the Packers.

[Bretsky]

It was a good article; it's crazy we went 13 and 3 with that small of a point differential

[Joemailman]

It was a good article; it's crazy we went 13 and 3 with that small of a point differential

It is. Packers did the things you have to do to win close games. Usually won the turnover battle, and were good in the red zone both on offense and defense. I'm definitely in the camp of those who say Packers could be better this year and not win as many games.

[Bretsky]

It is. Packers did the things you have to do to win close games. Usually won the turnover battle, and were good in the red zone both on offense and defense. I'm definitely in the camp of those who say Packers could be better this year and not win as many games.

i would never embrace that we were the worst 13 and 3 team ever

But I also think talent wise we weren't a 13 and 3 team and I don't expect to be there next year either.

Rodgers will get us to slip into the playoffs