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  • #76
    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
    If I told you that your QB threw for over 4400 yards with 25 TD and 2 Int over 16 games, you'd expect a pretty good record, right?
    That was Rodgers in the 2018, where they went 6-9-1.
    Last year under MLF they improved considerably thanks to coaching, scheme, gameday luck and injury luck, defense, a 3rd place schedule, avoiding Mahomes and Stafford (in week 17), etc. but also because of moves by Gute. Pretty much everything except the passing game, actually. I think that's why we all hoped to see more drastic improvements personnel-wise there, but it sounds like it wasn't in the cards.
    I agree the Love pick will define Gute's time as GM, but if they truly felt he was a high ceiling pick and a good fit for the scheme, I'm ok with it. They haven't gotten a lot out of their R1 picks anyway, and Wolf/TT/Schneider have had their share of clunkers in R1. Gute has made mistakes, but that's because he's taken some gambles that I don't think TT would have...Some of those are going to pay, some will flame out. Gotta be able to live with that. Point is, before we complain about Gute shitting the bed, think about what he had to work with and where they are now. He's done a pretty good job and I don't think one pick ruins everything...that's a purely emotional response worthy of a Real Housewives drama queen. This was a team with 2 straight losing seasons (M3's last 2), the talent wasn't great, and they were not SB contenders. I would say last year was due to modest improvements and luck, but credit is still deserved. It's hard to win in the NFL.

    If there was a decent WR out there under the age of 30 without baggage, I'm sure Gute would be looking at them (as would every other GM, personnel moves don't happen in a vaccuum). AB is 32 years old, with serious legal and locker room issues. Who wants those kinds of headaches when you have enough personalities (incl. Rodgers) to deal with? Besides, the last WR I can think of they signed that age was Mark freaking Clayton, the last TE was Jimmy Graham. Neither turned out great.
    No we don't. Many Many people did not see Gary worthy of the 12th pick or Love even of a 1st round grade. Plus this attitude of we don't draft well in the 1st round anyways so it doesn't matter is just "LOSER TALK" and should not be accepted. Talk about a mediocrity.

    Locker Room issues? LMAO!!! The only person causing "Locker Room Issues" is that jack ass Gute. Brown coming in I believe would help relieve the locker room tension and give Rodgers some more feel good about the level of confidence of the organization with their commitment to win now. It would ease this tension IMO with the mickey mouse club receiving corp in place. Brown is most likely going to serve a 4 game suspension. To compare him to Clayton or Graham is just ridiculous. The guy played last season and was effective when he played. He is in better physical condition then anyone on the Packers roster.

    "TESLA" FOOL!!!

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    • #77
      I can't guarantee the Packers will win a Super Bowl if they go get Antonio Brown but I can Guarantee they would have a better chance then they currently do now.

      That't the Truth.

      And in the end that's what the fans and the players and all of us deserve is the best shot possible.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
        Once again I have no problem with “Trying To Improve The Run Game.” My problem is chasing unicorns and burning resources and avoiding glaring weaknesses which in the end is complete RECKLESS BEHAVIOR!!!!
        A bit too much drama for my liking, but there's nothing objectionable to think it they could have done better.

        No matter what they do, someone will complain. When they don't win the Superbowl, they'll then claim vindication. On the off chance they do win it all, it'll be in spite of the management decisions rather than because.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
          A bit too much drama for my liking, but there's nothing objectionable to think it they could have done better.

          No matter what they do, someone will complain. When they don't win the Superbowl, they'll then claim vindication. On the off chance they do win it all, it'll be in spite of the management decisions rather than because.
          I have no problem giving credit where credit is due but I think I’m pretty safe with the collection of Gute,LaFluer and Pettine doing that while upstaging Rodgers. Those three just aren’t that great. Sorry.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
            I have no problem giving credit where credit is due but I think I’m pretty safe with the collection of Gute,LaFluer and Pettine doing that while upstaging Rodgers. Those three just aren’t that great. Sorry.
            We'll see. Are you certain that diverting some attention away from Rodgers is a bad thing?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
              We'll see. Are you certain that diverting some attention away from Rodgers is a bad thing?

              When the time is right. Not certain the Packers are at that point yet. Yes. there were times in the pocket where he looked a little out of place but he is still a high volume passer in this league and you can still build an offense around him and win a Super Bowl if done correctly IMO. The Packers have just completely failed to go that route in years so we will never really know. Maybe he goes to another team and wins one but I am not certain he will win another one with the Packers.

              I don't see this as a situation like the Broncos with John Elway. Elway's skills were diminished much more then Rodgers are now. I just don't see this as a time to abandon Rodgers and head into and entirely different direction. This was far from the motto or vision that many wanted or envisioned when MM was let go. You wanna change the playbook fine but now was not the right time to change the entire vision of the offense.

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              • #82
                Aaron Rodgers is “The Guy”. As talented as Aaron Jones is I’m still in the boat that Aaron Rodgers is the best player on this football team and that’s not to take anything away from jones. Go Get AR12 a legit no.2. Sign Antonio Brown or make a Fucken trade for a guy like Sammy Watkins. There are available options on the table.

                Let’s see what happens then. If Rodgers fails with competent weapons then let’s start to talk about smash mouth football and The Love machine and all this rhetoric but right now it’s just ridiculous. They haven’t even given Rodgers a legit shot first. Geez!!!

                Why in the hell change the entire vision when you haven’t even explored your best possible option? Makes zero sense. It’s called “Ego and Arrogance” and it’s Fucken disgusting!!!!

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                • #83
                  The only reason the die hards and homers are even putting up with all this shit and willing to ride the wave is because of the “13–3 season” where everything went right. Let’s see how well everyone can look the other way when the shit hits the fan.

                  Let’s see how popular all this bullshit is then.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                    When the time is right. Not certain the Packers are at that point yet. Yes. there were times in the pocket where he looked a little out of place but he is still a high volume passer in this league and you can still build an offense around him and win a Super Bowl if done correctly IMO. The Packers have just completely failed to go that route in years so we will never really know. Maybe he goes to another team and wins one but I am not certain he will win another one with the Packers.

                    I don't see this as a situation like the Broncos with John Elway. Elway's skills were diminished much more then Rodgers are now. I just don't see this as a time to abandon Rodgers and head into and entirely different direction. This was far from the motto or vision that many wanted or envisioned when MM was let go. You wanna change the playbook fine but now was not the right time to change the entire vision of the offense.
                    Hold on, I didn't say anything about heading in an entirely different direction. I asked whether some attention being moved off Rodgers was necessarily a bad thing. Where do you twist that into Rodgers going to another team?

                    Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                      The only reason the die hards and homers are even putting up with all this shit and willing to ride the wave is because of the “13–3 season” where everything went right. Let’s see how well everyone can look the other way when the shit hits the fan.

                      Let’s see how popular all this bullshit is then.
                      Labeling people as die-hards and homers doesn't make you any more right. It just makes you a self-righteous asshole.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                        Aaron Rodgers is “The Guy”. As talented as Aaron Jones is I’m still in the boat that Aaron Rodgers is the best player on this football team and that’s not to take anything away from jones. Go Get AR12 a legit no.2. Sign Antonio Brown or make a Fucken trade for a guy like Sammy Watkins. There are available options on the table.

                        Let’s see what happens then. If Rodgers fails with competent weapons then let’s start to talk about smash mouth football and The Love machine and all this rhetoric but right now it’s just ridiculous. They haven’t even given Rodgers a legit shot first. Geez!!!

                        Why in the hell change the entire vision when you haven’t even explored your best possible option? Makes zero sense. It’s called “Ego and Arrogance” and it’s Fucken disgusting!!!!
                        I'm pretty convinced you're just trolling at this point. Shame on me for taking the bait.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                          I'm pretty convinced you're just trolling at this point. Shame on me for taking the bait.
                          This isn’t “Trolling” and many Packer fans feel the same way I do. Not to mention several media outlets, players and former players etc etc. If people wanna hide in a little bubble then fine. Im not making up anything or talking about anything that isn’t being talked about in several other places or platforms. Geez.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                            Hold on, I didn't say anything about heading in an entirely different direction. I asked whether some attention being moved off Rodgers was necessarily a bad thing. Where do you twist that into Rodgers going to another team?

                            Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
                            Once again the “Teams Actions” have shown a level of “Moving On From Rodgers” and it goes beyond the Jordan Love pick. If you can’t see that then I can’t help ya. People that think that Rodgers is gonna be around for the next 4-5 years are delusional. This was a bold move by Gute and their plans are definitely in motion. The Rodgers window is most likely 1-2 years and the fact that Gute is doing nothing to help him this offseason only puts the plan in cement. This appears to be the “Direction”

                            There ya go. Like it or hate it that appears to be the plan.
                            Last edited by GB-Brandon; 07-15-2020, 12:04 PM. Reason: typo

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by sharpe1027 View Post
                              Hold on, I didn't say anything about heading in an entirely different direction. I asked whether some attention being moved off Rodgers was necessarily a bad thing. Where do you twist that into Rodgers going to another team?

                              Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
                              Where should the optimism come from?

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                                Aaron Rodgers is “The Guy”. As talented as Aaron Jones is I’m still in the boat that Aaron Rodgers is the best player on this football team and that’s not to take anything away from jones. Go Get AR12 a legit no.2. Sign Antonio Brown or make a Fucken trade for a guy like Sammy Watkins. There are available options on the table.

                                Let’s see what happens then. If Rodgers fails with competent weapons then let’s start to talk about smash mouth football and The Love machine and all this rhetoric but right now it’s just ridiculous. They haven’t even given Rodgers a legit shot first. Geez!!!

                                Why in the hell change the entire vision when you haven’t even explored your best possible option? Makes zero sense. It’s called “Ego and Arrogance” and it’s Fucken disgusting!!!!
                                Really? Sammy Watkins? Really, that is your argument. I would say you can do better, but....
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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