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  • Originally posted by Rastak View Post
    That said, I highly doubt Gutey wants that clown in the locker room but who can say for sure.
    The thing is Russell Wilson(who is supposedly the ultimate team guy) loves the guy and has been working out with him. Not sure he would be the cancer at this stage everyone fears knowing his career is certainly on the line. On top of that GB might be the perfect environment for him at this stage of his treatment. It could be a huge WiN/WIN for EVERYONE!!!

    This is exactly the type of move Gute needs be all over actually.

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    • Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
      The thing is Russell Wilson(who is supposedly the ultimate team guy) loves the guy and has been working out with him. Not sure he would be the cancer at this stage everyone fears knowing his career is certainly on the line. On top of that GB might be the perfect environment for him at this stage of his treatment. It could be a huge WiN/WIN for EVERYONE!!!

      This is exactly the type of move Gute needs be all over actually.
      Well, we'll see what happens. I do understand your position. I'm presuming the NFL suspends the living shit out of him rendering the point moot (or mute as some of you non english speaking goofballs say),

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      • This is the guy some of you want in GB?

        https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/16/an...onduct-assault

        Per people I know in Pittsburgh, it seems that the list of people he stiffed goes well-beyond the nonprofit charity, various assistants, doctor, chef, 2 trainers and artist mentioned in the SI article. Business after business did things for him, large and small, and were never paid. Then there are the much more serious and concerning sexual assault, domestic abuse, physical assault, reckless driving and other accusations that have been made against him, some formally and several settled. In my opinion this is a guy who does not deserve another chance in the NFL.

        Is an NFL team different than any other business? If Antonio Brown was your CEO, CFO, studio president, leading actor, factory general manager, office manager or other employee, should his past be ignored?

        In this day and age, businesses should, and some do, take stands against people like him. They do not belong in your organization. There should not be a lower standard for athlete-employees than for more common jobs just because they have less common physical skills. If he was a groundskeeper or equipment manager, should the Packers hire him? What if he was an office staffer? Coach? Head coach? GM? Antonio Brown shouldn't be held to a lower standard just because he is a top skilled WR.

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        • As always, Patler stated it better than I. Guy is a turd, risk or no risk, you' have to be a moron to sign him.

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          • Originally posted by Patler View Post
            This is the guy some of you want in GB?

            https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/16/an...onduct-assault

            Per people I know in Pittsburgh, it seems that the list of people he stiffed goes well-beyond the nonprofit charity, various assistants, doctor, chef, 2 trainers and artist mentioned in the SI article. Business after business did things for him, large and small, and were never paid. Then there are the much more serious and concerning sexual assault, domestic abuse, physical assault, reckless driving and other accusations that have been made against him, some formally and several settled. In my opinion this is a guy who does not deserve another chance in the NFL.

            Is an NFL team different than any other business? If Antonio Brown was your CEO, CFO, studio president, leading actor, factory general manager, office manager or other employee, should his past be ignored?

            In this day and age, businesses should, and some do, take stands against people like him. They do not belong in your organization. There should not be a lower standard for athlete-employees than for more common jobs just because they have less common physical skills. If he was a groundskeeper or equipment manager, should the Packers hire him? What if he was an office staffer? Coach? Head coach? GM? Antonio Brown shouldn't be held to a lower standard just because he is a top skilled WR.
            You could of said many of these same things about Andre Rison who was broke two years after retiring from the NFL. Rison left a very long trail of disaster both before he played with the Packers and after he won a Super Bowl with the Packers. In fact his behavior is somewhat of a carbon copy of Brown’s

            The difference is back then is we did not have social media so even though everyone knew Andre was a “Bad Moon” they did not have as much access to details and depth of the situation. This all gets very frustrating for me as the Packers have already exercised looking the other way and going this route before.

            It was Holmgren and I know this. I really like Holmgren. Wish we had some more of Holmgren now.

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            • Originally posted by Patler View Post

              Is an NFL team different than any other business? If Antonio Brown was your CEO, CFO, studio president, leading actor, factory general manager, office manager or other employee, should his past be ignored?
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              Vick served time (unjustly, in my humble stoic opinion) for a dogfighting ring. NFL welcomed him back with open arms.

              Roethlisbeger allegedly raped a 20 year old college chick in a bathroom of a bar. Welcomed back with open arms.

              Hunt was caught on tape physically assaulting a woman. Welcomed back with open arms.

              Stallworth drove drunk and tragically killed a pedestrian. Welcomed back with open arms.

              Incognito physically and psychologically bullied a teammate and has always been insane. Welcomed back with open arms.

              Kap, never once a thug, knelt inside PUBLICLY funded stadiums to shed lights on societal maladies. Gets blackballed.

              Comparing the NFL to other businesses is ridiculously stupid.

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              • All those other guys could play football. Kap kneeled after he got yanked for Blaine Gabbert.

                Blaine Gabbert.

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                His last start he was 20-41 for 165 and a 59.2 QB rating.

                Broad sides of barns were wondering where the football was.

                He’s making better coin with his new gig than being a marginal backup to never been starters like Blaine Gabbert.
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • What it really comes down too is if you believe you have a plan in place and a locker room to handle the player and situation. The “Walrus” was up to the task at handling Rison and the Packers were masterful at pulling it off and making it work with Rison in route to winning a Super Bowl.

                  As much as I believe Brown could help this team I’m not sure Flower Boy is capable of pulling it off. To me he is weak. He can’t even stand up to Mike Pettine. How is he gonna stand up to Antonio Brown. Probably won’t work.

                  On the other hand I can see where a guy like Pete Carroll could handle Brown which is probably why the Seahawks are trying to sign him.
                  Last edited by GB-Brandon; 07-18-2020, 01:55 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                    All those other guys could play football. Kap kneeled after he got yanked for Blaine Gabbert.

                    Blaine Gabbert.

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                    His last start he was 20-41 for 165 and a 59.2 QB rating.

                    Broad sides of barns were wondering where the football was.

                    He’s making better coin with his new gig than being a marginal backup to never been starters like Blaine Gabbert.
                    Kap doesn’t even own a worthless Packers stock, yet he still owns the Packers. Anyone good enough to own the Packers in the arena, with glorious blades of grass beneath his feet, is good enough to be in the NFL.

                    Brett Hundley started games for the Packers, for fuck’s sake!

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                    • Comparing Brown to Rison is not accurate.
                      Rison was not easy to handle in the locker room, but his legal issues involved child support and domestic disputes with Lisa Lopes, who was certifiably disturbed enough to burn down his house.
                      Brown is (allegedly) a sexual predator and a cheat among other things (the felony assault charge, the tweets, etc.)

                      It's worth noting GB took a chance on Koren Robinson, who had substance abuse issues, and he was largely a good citizen, but bringing Brown into your locker room even on a team friendly contract would be a much larger risk for the team - internally as well as in the community. There's a reason Ray Rice didn't get much interest but Josh Gordon did...substance abuse is different from sex crimes.

                      I imagine the players and staff don't want the distraction, the bad PR locally and nationally, or their neighbors wondering if bringing this dirtbag in is worth it. These folks have to look their girlfriends/wives, and daughters in the eye.

                      Sexual harassment (which AB has also be accused of) and sexual assault should not be tolerated in sports or anywhere else. If the CEO of my company tweeted half the things AB has he'd be gone in a heartbeat. IMO that means not taking a risk on AB, and taking a stand on being a decent human being. AB has had chances and he's blown them IMO.

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                      • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                        Kap doesn’t even own a worthless Packers stock, yet he still owns the Packers. Anyone good enough to own the Packers in the arena, with glorious blades of grass beneath his feet, is good enough to be in the NFL.

                        Brett Hundley started games for the Packers, for fuck’s sake!
                        Troy Aikman owned the Packers at one point too. All flesh is grass. Kap’s time as a serviceable NFL clipboard holder are long gone.


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                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • I am a nut case. Reckless, dangerous, impulsive. The whole 9 yards. But I'm also fiercely loyal, warm to my people, consistently supportive to my family and honest.

                          Not every psycho is a bad person. We just like fire and fighting and driving fast. Doesn't mean we're not good, loyal, committed people. Just have some rough edges and are prone to excitement and risk.

                          It's kinda like a wolf vs a dog. A wolf will rip your face off if you're not his teammate. A wolf will do some dangerous ass shit. A dog is docile, obedient, and likes everyone (vs a wolf only liking his pack)

                          Wolves aren't bad, just different than dogs. Brown is a wolf. He has the blood of the ancients pumping through his veins, not a domesticated dog.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
                            Comparing Brown to Rison is not accurate.
                            Rison was not easy to handle in the locker room, but his legal issues involved child support and domestic disputes with Lisa Lopes, who was certifiably disturbed enough to burn down his house.
                            Brown is (allegedly) a sexual predator and a cheat among other things (the felony assault charge, the tweets, etc.)

                            It's worth noting GB took a chance on Koren Robinson, who had substance abuse issues, and he was largely a good citizen, but bringing Brown into your locker room even on a team friendly contract would be a much larger risk for the team - internally as well as in the community. There's a reason Ray Rice didn't get much interest but Josh Gordon did...substance abuse is different from sex crimes.

                            I imagine the players and staff don't want the distraction, the bad PR locally and nationally, or their neighbors wondering if bringing this dirtbag in is worth it. These folks have to look their girlfriends/wives, and daughters in the eye.

                            Sexual harassment (which AB has also be accused of) and sexual assault should not be tolerated in sports or anywhere else. If the CEO of my company tweeted half the things AB has he'd be gone in a heartbeat. IMO that means not taking a risk on AB, and taking a stand on being a decent human being. AB has had chances and he's blown them IMO.
                            Whatever man. You conveniently left out Rison’s 128 mph speeding ticket and unloading a clip of a handgun in a store parking lot. Real safe dude bruh. Yeah. Whatever.

                            He was as Fucken reckless as they come.

                            The community of Green Bay was in amazing hands!!!!!

                            LOL. I needed a good laugh today!!!

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                            • Let’s be very clear here too. AB would be in the “Community” for probably 7 months tops. “1 year Deal” and I doubt he would stick around after we hoist a Lombardi in Feb. You lay out a strict regiment and guidelines for those 7 months or you send him packin. That simple.

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                              • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                                Troy Aikman owned the Packers at one point too. All flesh is grass. Kap’s time as a serviceable NFL clipboard holder are long gone.


                                Blaine Gabbert.


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                                Handsome Blaine Gabbert starting over Kap had more to do with Chip Kelly’s incompetence than Kap’s game. Kelly made Mike Sherman look like Belichick. Ain’t a coincidence that Kelly is no longer in the NFL.

                                You mock Kap’s inaccuracy. Well, the NFL welcomed back, with open arms, a CONVICTED felon who was even more inaccurate than Kap. Talkin’ about the hapless Mike Vick.

                                No doubt Vick was unjustly incarcerated. Man has been exploiting inferior species since he grew a brain and became self-aware. And who the fuck has never gambled across state lines? That said, compared to Vick, Kap is a saint. And while Vick was electrifying, Kap has more Kung Fu than Vick had in his prime.

                                No doubt Kap is being blackballed.

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