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  • #46
    Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
    Word from 1265 (RB coach pressconference) is that Jamal Williams made huge strides as a route runner and pass catcher. Also quicker than last year.

    3rd down backs primary responsibility is pass protection. That’s why John Kuhn was the 3rd down back for so many years. Maybe he wasn’t gonna catch any 20 yard passes or be very dynamic as a screen player, but the pass protection was guaranteed for 12. That opened up a lot of big passes.

    Williams brings that reliability plus screen game and now route running and pass catching. This will the the best 3rd down running back Rodgers has ever played with. I would bet anyone anytime that Williams is our primary third down running back.

    Williams isn't half the receiving threat Aaron Jones is. If he's in as a receiver over Jones it's a travesty. It's a good thing our RB's are strong; they will hide how crappy our overall receiving talent is ))
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      Williams isn't half the receiving threat Aaron Jones is.
      If you mean "threat", I agree.
      If you actually mean "performer", I'm not sure that I do. Jones showed improvement last year in catching and blocking. Williams is the better blocker and had much better hands than Jones the first two years. I can see Williams as the more frequent 3rd down back. He won't be the "threat" Jones is, but may get the job done more often.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Patler View Post
        If you mean "threat", I agree.
        If you actually mean "performer", I'm not sure that I do. Jones showed improvement last year in catching and blocking. Williams is the better blocker and had much better hands than Jones the first two years. I can see Williams as the more frequent 3rd down back. He won't be the "threat" Jones is, but may get the job done more often.


        It seems like Gutebag has set GB up nicely to dump Jones if that is what they don't want to pay him
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #49
          Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
          Word from 1265 (RB coach pressconference) is that Jamal Williams made huge strides as a route runner and pass catcher. Also quicker than last year.
          Jamal, or Dexter? I read those comments about Dexter Williams, too. I thought Jamal was already thought of as a good route runner with decent hands.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            Jamal, or Dexter? I read those comments about Dexter Williams, too. I thought Jamal was already thought of as a good route runner with decent hands.
            I think Jamal has had more pass catching opportunities, especially with McCarthy. Jamal has had more consistency than Aaron Jones with pass protection so he’s seen more passing downs.

            Kuhn could get 6 yards in the flat. He could get 2 yards when needed. Other than that, he was an A+ pass protector and took most of the third down snaps because that aspect opens up the offense.

            Jamal now is that guy, except he can do more. His route running has greatly improved, he’s quicker. He still has a great feel for screens im sure and a top notch pass protector. Just hitting his prime as far as play chemistry with 12. I envision Williams taking most 3rd down snaps and passing Kuhn as the most valuable 3rd down RB of the Rodgers era. By most valuable, I mean the first consistent, smart pass protection back who gives AR time to open up the field and can also Double as a guy who makes things happen in the screeen and pass game.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #51
              Williams is so good as the blocker. He just sticks people. AJO tries to too but he's just not fricking big enough
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #52
                Jamal Williams got the best pass blocking grade of all running backs from Pff over the last two years. I have no doubt he’s our third down back. And I believe he’s the best third down back of Aaron Rodgers career. Rodgers loved having Kuhn because he was so reliable. Williams is almost as sharp as Kuhn, catches screens better, runs routes better and is a better runner.

                I really think, with Williams making such gains as a receiver and being more explosive..... he’s going to see a lot of snaps with Aaron Jones because I also think Williams could lead block effectively. And that pass pro reliability opens 12 up to do a lot of things.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #53
                  I’ve been saying this for a little bit, but keeping Jones, Williams, Dillon and swerv.... I think we can see a lot more Jones/Williams together this year. Rodgers loves both guys cuz he has chemistry with them.

                  Williams could lead block or pass block, opening up Jones to either run a route on a linebacker or run against a small front. Also, the screen game is sick with Williams in. I just see so many options with his blocking and pass catching versatility. Almost like Kyle Juzcek (spelling) in SF.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • #54
                    If it’s Williams (who’s a good pass catcher, elite nfl pass blocker, decent runner and probably a solid run blocker, but we haven’t seen)

                    Or

                    Deguara, who has a perfect skill set but is a rookie


                    With our QB, I’m going Williams every time in 2020. And if Dillon shows up and shows signs of being legit, keeping Williams for cheap next year and letting Jones go looks more and more probable. Dillon every down next year. Williams best third down back in league (as it pertains to working with 12)
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • #55
                      Pettine shows no emotion, but he’s about as excited as I’ve ever seen him about the sevondary. Said those guys really know how to work together after playing together in the same defense for a while. Mentioned sully, king, Alexander, Amos and savage. Said he’s gonna lean on them a lot in what they do.

                      Being so smart and athletic, experienced and still young. No way Gute breaks up the band for Aaron Jones.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • #56
                        I have to ask. Why did we draft AJ Dillon to sit on the bench so I could watch our regular RBs continue to get stuffed in short yardage situations? I think the 4th and 1 carry, Dillon would have trucked someone for the first where Jones came up short.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                          I have to ask. Why did we draft AJ Dillon to sit on the bench so I could watch our regular RBs continue to get stuffed in short yardage situations? I think the 4th and 1 carry, Dillon would have trucked someone for the first where Jones came up short.
                          X1000

                          Put him in and give him a chance to run somebody over.
                          Go PACK

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                          • #58
                            Injury? Fumbles in practice?
                            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                            George Orwell

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                              I have to ask. Why did we draft AJ Dillon to sit on the bench so I could watch our regular RBs continue to get stuffed in short yardage situations? I think the 4th and 1 carry, Dillon would have trucked someone for the first where Jones came up short.
                              Jones is pretty slippery, especially on the goal line. Jamaal is pretty tough and basically always falls forward. But yeah, I was hoping they would put AJ in...all he ever saw at BC was a loaded box.
                              The NO defense had that 4th down play pretty well beaten though if you watch it. Jones had nowhere to go and Lattimore cleaned him up on the 2nd effort.

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                              • #60
                                I'm thinking he's underwhelmed in practice OR they are keeping him fresh/under wraps for later in the season ala: James Starks.

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