The official Allen Lazard fan club!

[RashanGary]

I’m in.

Lizard!!!

MVS had his ups and downs there. Clearly Lazard is the guy who you can count on for being more consistent.

[Guiness]

Lizard!!!

MVS had his ups and downs there. Clearly Lazard is the guy who you can count on for being more consistent.

He had 4 receptions on 4 targets in today's season opener against the Vikings. If he can hold onto the ball like that his decent speed and good size are going to continue to cause problems for defenses.

[RashanGary]

He had 4 receptions on 4 targets in today's season opener against the Vikings. If he can hold onto the ball like that his decent speed and good size are going to continue to cause problems for defenses.

Unbelievable. I kinda thought he had this in him but he looks a tick faster than last year too. He’s a grinder. He’s always gonna get better. Love that guy! So tough and competitive and smart and talented too. No way this guy fails!

[RashanGary]

Kirk Cousins looked better than I’ve ever seen him too, on a different note. Faster, more elusive, really good on the run. He’s a top 5 QB right now IMO.

Rodgers
Mahommes
Wilson
Lamar
Cousins

Weirdly, really, he looks that good this year. Maybe top six cuz of Watson. But Watson is in a bad situation so Kirks year should be better

[call_me_ishmael]

Tell that to Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, Lane Taylor and the Butte QB who couldn't go to a real college.

Just get in the Lizard aquarium before all of the cozy rocks are taken.

Aaron Rodgers was a first round pick. The other guys were decent players for a few years. Now do the inverse - how many players like Lazard ever become anything? For every Tramon or Sticky Sam, there are 50 that flame out.

[run pMc]

Kirk Cousins looked better than I’ve ever seen him too, on a different note. Faster, more elusive, really good on the run. He’s a top 5 QB right now IMO.

Rodgers
Mahommes
Wilson
Lamar
Cousins

Weirdly, really, he looks that good this year. Maybe top six cuz of Watson. But Watson is in a bad situation so Kirks year should be better

I think you're overrating Cousins. I don't think Cousins is terrible -- he's capable of stringing together some good games, and I think he's an above-average starting QB. I don't think he's in the class of Mahomes or Rodgers. I mean, Minny did pretty well with Case fricking Keenum before they had Cousins at QB, and they haven't really done much better with him.

Thought experiment: If MIN replaced Keenum with Rodgers or Mahomes would it be a different story? I think Rodgers throwing to Diggs, Thielen and Rudolph with Cook in the backfield over the last few seasons would be a scary thing, especially paired with Zimmer's D.

[RashanGary]

Aaron Rodgers was a first round pick. The other guys were decent players for a few years. Now do the inverse - how many players like Lazard ever become anything? For every Tramon or Sticky Sam, there are 50 that flame out.

Watch him play. It's all you need to know. Draft position don't matter once a guy is in the NFL. If you watched.the games. You'd know he's talented.

[RashanGary]

I think you're overrating Cousins. I don't think Cousins is terrible -- he's capable of stringing together some good games, and I think he's an above-average starting QB. I don't think he's in the class of Mahomes or Rodgers. I mean, Minny did pretty well with Case fricking Keenum before they had Cousins at QB, and they haven't really done much better with him.

Thought experiment: If MIN replaced Keenum with Rodgers or Mahomes would it be a different story? I think Rodgers throwing to Diggs, Thielen and Rudolph with Cook in the backfield over the last few seasons would be a scary thing, especially paired with Zimmer's D.

The way cousins played today, I have no doubt that offense is scary right now

[QBME]

I'm on the Lazard bandwagon.

Love the Lizard - quick, stealthy and on the move.

[bobblehead]

Aaron Rodgers was a first round pick. The other guys were decent players for a few years. Now do the inverse - how many players like Lazard ever become anything? For every Tramon or Sticky Sam, there are 50 that flame out.

But he already has passed the flame out stage. He is an NFL receiver and will be for years. Personally I'm more on the MVS bandwagon. I believe MVS has a better year than Lazard, but to be honest, our top 3 are proving to be a lot better than anyone gave them credit for (except JH who has them all in the HoF)

[HarveyWallbangers]

Be an Allen Lazard fan before it's cool. Came into the league 230, running 4.55. Goes 220 now and I'm sure a high 4.4 guy! The athleticism knock is a lie. Lizards a beast and future Packer HOfer!

I've been on this bandwagon for awhile. You're late to the party. I doubt he improved his 40 from 4.55 to 4.4s though.

[run pMc]

I'm on. Lazard should be a #3 WR and MVS a #4. Adams can be a #1 but I still don't see a #2 WR on this team. You can argue they don't need one if they spread the ball around, but there are going to be teams with shutdown corners that give the WRs trouble.

All that said, I like Lazard better than MVS because he's more consistent and reliable. MVS has his moments and is more physically talented. I'm rooting for MVS to clean up those drops and learn to track/catch the deep ball, but I'm afraid he might not get much better at it. 6-4 guys who run sub 4.4 are rare though.

[run pMc]

I've been on this bandwagon for awhile. You're late to the party. I doubt he improved his 40 from 4.55 to 4.4s though.

Agree. I doubt Lazard is faster than a 4.5. I'm more concerned with his ability to separate, be in the right place, and catch contested throws. With his size that's what matters. I don't think he's ever going to outrun many corners, but he can use his size/muscle/smarts to beat them a la Anquan Boldin.

[call_me_ishmael]

But he already has passed the flame out stage. He is an NFL receiver and will be for years. Personally I'm more on the MVS bandwagon. I believe MVS has a better year than Lazard, but to be honest, our top 3 are proving to be a lot better than anyone gave them credit for (except JH who has them all in the HoF)

He may be an NFL receiver but I predict he's just a guy. #4 or #5 on most teams floating around where they're always on the bubble or at risk or getting cut. We shall see how it shakes out. He looked good in his limited action last year.

[GB-Brandon]

I think you're overrating Cousins. I don't think Cousins is terrible -- he's capable of stringing together some good games, and I think he's an above-average starting QB. I don't think he's in the class of Mahomes or Rodgers. I mean, Minny did pretty well with Case fricking Keenum before they had Cousins at QB, and they haven't really done much better with him.

Thought experiment: If MIN replaced Keenum with Rodgers or Mahomes would it be a different story? I think Rodgers throwing to Diggs, Thielen and Rudolph with Cook in the backfield over the last few seasons would be a scary thing, especially paired with Zimmer's D.

He has to do this because his big “Top 5 Defense Narrative” is about to go right out the window.

Any average fan can tell that Minnesota’s offense is rather average compared to the rest of the league. All the sudden he is painting them like some offensive juggernaut!!!!