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  • #46
    Lazard is nothing special but at least he will catch the damn ball.

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    • #47
      I applaud Rodgers for sticking with Valdez-Scantling after the two drops. The guy has star potential, and I think he outgrows the drop thing. Lazard too is a damn good player. Obviously, somebody among the team decison makers knew that when they didn't draft a WR. And we haven't even seen St.Brown yet. I wish they would greatly de-emphasize TEs in the game and get him on the field, maybe Malik Taylor too.
      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
        I'm with Patler, but I'm more bullish on Lazard. Athletically, he is a big upgrade on Allison, Ruvell, and Boykin (one year wonders). I'd be very surprised if Lazard doesn't have a typical James Jones like year (~700 yards and 6-7 TDs).
        I can agree with a lot of what Patler says, but I think at the end of the season MVS will have proven a much more effective weapon. Lazard does other things though. Better blocker. Maybe more reliable to be exactly where you want him. MVS still isn't a finished product by any means, but James Jones went through a serious case of the drops on those over the top throws before leading the NFL in TDs.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #49
          To me mvs is our deep threat and used appropriately can make our game way better even if he has the drops.
          Lizard is our lunch box wr also equally important but not a star.

          Neither is but neither needs to be.

          If we want a star we trade for obj when everyone is down on him.
          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

          George Orwell

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          • #50
            If someone were to tell me GB would keep Cook + Mattison to <= 100yards while Davante gets over 100 with 2TDs and MVS catches 4/6 for 96 yards and TD, I'd gladly take that.

            If MVS averaged that all year that would be pretty incredible. Not gonna happen, but it's a good start.

            I think MVS is more talented, but I think Lazard is better/more consistent and belongs ahead of him (barely) on the depth chart.
            MVS as a deep threat helps make the short/intermediate stuff to Davante/Lazard work.

            If you want to complain about drops, DK Metcalf and AJ Brown had some bad ones, so did Saquon and we know about De'Andre Swift. Davante had at least one drop Sunday too. You can always find something negative if you look.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              I applaud Rodgers for sticking with Valdez-Scantling after the two drops. The guy has star potential, and I think he outgrows the drop thing. Lazard too is a damn good player. Obviously, somebody among the team decison makers knew that when they didn't draft a WR. And we haven't even seen St.Brown yet. I wish they would greatly de-emphasize TEs in the game and get him on the field, maybe Malik Taylor too.
              Agree about taking out the TEs. Ain’t like the Packers have Hillbilly Kettle or White Chocolate Kelce on the team.

              For some odd reason, the Frog refuses to run 4-5 WRs sets, not even on 3rd and 100. 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 RB formations (the 11’s) are so old school. I still remember Favre running the 11’s under center every fucking time back when the Holmgren refused do the shotgun.

              McCarthy used 4-5 WRs sets liberally.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                Agree about taking out the TEs. Ain’t like the Packers have Hillbilly Kettle or White Chocolate Kelce on the team.

                For some odd reason, the Frog refuses to run 4-5 WRs sets, not even on 3rd and 100. 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 RB formations (the 11’s) are so old school. I still remember Favre running the 11’s under center every fucking time back when the Holmgren refused do the shotgun.

                McCarthy used 4-5 WRs sets liberally.

                That’s what Rodgers belongs in. “5 Wide and Burn Rubber” with “Weapons of Mass Destruction”

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                  That’s what Rodgers belongs in. “5 Wide and Burn Rubber” with “Weapons of Mass Destruction”
                  In my 2019 “My Mastery Mockery of a Draft,” I argued for the Pack to take DK Metcalf, Ridley Riley and Andy Isabella. That drafted woulda given the Great Arm of Butte a tons of WMDs, no doubt.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                    In my 2019 “My Mastery Mockery of a Draft,” I argued for the Pack to take DK Metcalf, Ridley Riley and Andy Isabella. That drafted woulda given the Great Arm of Butte a tons of WMDs, no doubt.
                    If I had it my way they would have Courtland Sutton and Parris Campbell right now along with Joe Mixon.

                    Either scenario we’d be way better off!!!

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                    • #55
                      Could you guys imagine P. Campbell on that pitch play LaFluer likes? Talk about a “House Call”!!!!!!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                        Do you guys really trust MVS in January with the game on the line with 4th and 7?

                        I sure the hell don’t and if you do your crazy.
                        Jeff Janis caught not one but TWO Hail Marys in a January game. All they did was bench Janis.

                        MVS drops bombs after bombs after bombs. He’s nowhere near a doghouse.

                        Must be a black and white thing, eh?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                          Jeff Janis caught not one but TWO Hail Marys in a January game. All they did was bench Janis.

                          MVS drops bombs after bombs after bombs. He’s nowhere near a doghouse.

                          Must be a black and white thing, eh?
                          That’s just it. By the playoffs last year MVS was in the doghouse and is probably headed there again if this continues. The problem is we have nobody else. EQ didn’t even make the game day roster yet Gute was so so bullish on him!!!

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                          • #58
                            It’s time to make a TRADE!!!!! Our season depends on it!!!

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                            • #59
                              People say I need to admit I’m wrong? Hell Noooooooooooo!!!!!!

                              Brian Gutekunst needs to Fucken admit that he is way way way wrong and go get another weapon!!!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                                People say I need to admit I’m wrong? Hell Noooooooooooo!!!!!!

                                Brian Gutekunst needs to Fucken admit that he is way way way wrong and go get another weapon!!!
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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