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  • #16
    No, Bakh isn't routinely beat. Bakh was beat early last year, but since midseason last year, he's been back to his old self.

    The Packers can't afford to pay Linsley top dollar. They have other options, and it's not a priority position.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #17
      You see what you see, and I see what I see. The mobility of Aaron Rodgers mitigates the rush coming around that corner almost all the time, but it's still there. Not long ago, we had video of the Hail Mary Pass(es), and it was obvious there that first thing, Rodgers had to get away from Bakhtiari's man rushing in. Even in the early part of Sunday's game, I noticed it a couple of times. And there sure wasn't much rushing yardage to Bakhtiari's side - as usual, it was mostly over Linsley and Jenkins when he went back to Guard.

      As for other options, I'd say the situation at RT tells us a lot about how easy or not it is to replace somebody at offensive tackle. And "top dollar" with Linsley undoubtedly would be way cheaper than "top dollar" with Bakhtiari.
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      • #18
        Rodgers with PFF's top grade for the week. Bakh second.

        No player in the NFL graded out higher at Pro Football Focus during Week 1 of the 2020 season than Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers. His 364-yard, four-touchdown performance against the Minnesota Vikings earned Rodgers an overall grade of 96.0,…


        The Packers’ second highest-graded player was left tackle David Bakhtiari, who didn’t allow a single pressure over 45 pass-blocking snaps.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          Rodgers with PFF's top grade for the week. Bakh second.

          https://packerswire.usatoday.com/202...nfl-in-week-1/
          Tex not liking Bakh is perplexing. It feels like trolling but I’m pretty sure he believes it
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RashanGary View Post
            Tex not liking Bakh is perplexing. It feels like trolling but I’m pretty sure he believes it
            Watch the tapes.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              Watch the tapes.
              I watch the tapes Tex. Must say your constant bleating about Bahk being a poor player is goofy and arbitrary.

              Bahk is a solid player and one of the top 5 LT's in the game. He's been a first team All pro once and second team twice in his career. They don't hand out those awards to a so so Lt like you describe in your repeated posts slagging the guy. He has some unique skills and applies them well in executi
              ng his assignments. He is extremely quick and is very good at anticipating the snap count. The only LT I've seen since I started watch NFL football that was quicker than Bahk off the snap count is HOFer Anthony Munoz. He is a solid run blocker and rarely gives up a bad run.

              Also in this thread you rap Jenkins for his play on Sunday. Good God man, have you taken leave of your senses? This guy pitched a shut-out at RT then moved back to LG where he maintained his usual high level of play. Hey everybody likes to bitch, but there has to be some level of reality involved in the complaining. I think you've maintained a point of view so long, you think you have to defend it. Over and over again.

              I'd turn your own admonition against you.

              Record some games and grade both players.

              You'll find you have anal oculosis.

              That's a shitty way of looking at things.

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              • #22
                I sense a Bakhtiari is overrated by the media pukes post coming...
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  I sense a Bakhtiari is overrated by the media pukes post coming...
                  Yeah.

                  I know.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                    No, Bakh isn't routinely beat. Bakh was beat early last year, but since midseason last year, he's been back to his old self.

                    The Packers can't afford to pay Linsley top dollar. They have other options, and it's not a priority position.
                    I would even argue Bakh was BETTER after he figured it out. In the past he used the "holding" technique that never got called and was good at it, but he sacrificed leverage and position at times. After he started getting called for that hold which in the past they allowed he actually worked to gain better positioning and I think was better than in the past. Before he slowed down the rush. Now he is stonewalling it by not allowing guys to get "into" him.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #25
                      If anything, the Queens game is proof that you don’t draft a fat guy - defensive linemen and offensive linemen alike - til maybe the 5th round. Fat guys aren’t exotic playmakers.

                      However, if a fat guy proves that he can play, you try not to let him walk. Mike Sherman woulda found a way to retain both Wahle and Rivera.

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                      • #26
                        I'm still pissed the Pack wasted that second round pick on Leeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                          If anything, the Queens game is proof that you don’t draft a fat guy - defensive linemen and offensive linemen alike - til maybe the 5th round. Fat guys aren’t exotic playmakers.

                          However, if a fat guy proves that he can play, you try not to let him walk. Mike Sherman woulda found a way to retain both Wahle and Rivera.
                          Hey, dickwad, here's what you said about Leeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins! in his official draft thread:

                          "A fucking center?

                          Todd was the mother of incompetence but at least he wasn’t afraid of - and excelled at - drafting WRs in the 2nd.

                          German Shepherd had his choice between Metcalf, AJ Brown and Isabella, he took a fucking center!!! A fucking center! Fuck!!!!! I am pissed beyond fuck.

                          Orangutans are smarter than Brian Gutekunst."

                          Your game is weaker by the day.

                          Brandon's a way better Troll than you.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                            Hey, dickwad, here's what you said about Leeeeeeeeeroy Jenkins! in his official draft thread:

                            "A fucking center?

                            Todd was the mother of incompetence but at least he wasn’t afraid of - and excelled at - drafting WRs in the 2nd.

                            German Shepherd had his choice between Metcalf, AJ Brown and Isabella, he took a fucking center!!! A fucking center! Fuck!!!!! I am pissed beyond fuck.

                            Orangutans are smarter than Brian Gutekunst."

                            Your game is weaker by the day.

                            Brandon's a way better Troll than you.
                            McGinn gave the fucking center a bum grade last season. ‘Nuff said.

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                            • #29
                              Hahahahahahahaha

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                                I watch the tapes Tex. Must say your constant bleating about Bahk being a poor player is goofy and arbitrary.

                                Bahk is a solid player and one of the top 5 LT's in the game. He's been a first team All pro once and second team twice in his career. They don't hand out those awards to a so so Lt like you describe in your repeated posts slagging the guy. He has some unique skills and applies them well in executi
                                ng his assignments. He is extremely quick and is very good at anticipating the snap count. The only LT I've seen since I started watch NFL football that was quicker than Bahk off the snap count is HOFer Anthony Munoz. He is a solid run blocker and rarely gives up a bad run.

                                Also in this thread you rap Jenkins for his play on Sunday. Good God man, have you taken leave of your senses? This guy pitched a shut-out at RT then moved back to LG where he maintained his usual high level of play. Hey everybody likes to bitch, but there has to be some level of reality involved in the complaining. I think you've maintained a point of view so long, you think you have to defend it. Over and over again.

                                I'd turn your own admonition against you.

                                Record some games and grade both players.

                                You'll find you have anal oculosis.

                                That's a shitty way of looking at things.
                                One of the things I least enjoy doing is saying bad things about Packer players - unlike some in here who spew shit like that all the time. Everything I see, though, current games, live action, replays, old films, whatever is Bakhtiari messing up - and most of the time, Rodgers escaping and making good things happen anyway, probably a large part of the reason Bakhtiari is considered so good. When is the last time you saw a decent run over Bakhtiari's block? If there are any, maybe somebody can dig up and post one or two. I will concede that there were a couple instances where Bakhtiari held off the pass rusher good, but there were also several, especially early in the game, where the outside guy ran right around him and forced our QB to adjust. I'm not saying the guy is a bad player, but I just think he is no better than a helluva lot of others playing the position, and if we can't get him for a pretty ordinary amount of money, then let somebody else have him.

                                On the other hand, how many times last year and in the first game this year did we get big holes and good runs right over Linsley and Jenkins? A lot. I rapped Jenkins? All I said is that he did great at LG, and not much good happened with him at RT. I really hope they keep him at LG for anything other than emergency use at tackle.

                                Yeah, Joe, I suppose the media pukes do overrate Bakhtiari, but mostly I'm focusing on the mania a lot of posters liking him. And I wouldn't say a word against re-signing Bakhtiari for whatever ridiculous amount it might take, except that people have had the gall to suggest sacrificing Aaron Jones or Linsley or both to keep Bakhtiari. Hopefully, that's just poster nonsense or media puke nonsense, and the team ain't that damn dumb.

                                "Mike Sherman woulda found a way to retain both Wahle and Rivera." yes, this, APB.
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