O-line shuffles during week 1

[bobblehead]

After re-watching the game (see my post in the Revenge Tour thread), I absolutely don't want Jenkins moved away from LG. Wagner did well at RT too, and should stay there. Any of the three - Turner, Patrick, or Runyon at RG should be ok also.

Jenkins is great at LG, but he is so talented he needs to play tackle. Especially if you don't have an elite tackle starting on the right side right now.

[texaspackerbacker]

You're talking like RT is the more important position of the two. With Aaron Rodgers at QB, it absolutely is not. Rodgers has always eluded the outside rush consistently. The Guard positions also are more important in the running game.

We've had this whole discussion about Bakhtiari, and after watching game film more closely, I walked back my criticism of him a little bit, but what really stood out in what I saw was the number of times Bakhtiari made his block, and the runs got stuffed anyway. I didn't specifically watch the right side, but I assume the same tackle kick out block is most often used there - and we don't often gain much running off tackle right either. Over Guard and Center is where most of the success has been.

[Joemailman]

The packers might want to make Jenkins the RT of the future. Slightly harder spot to fill and if they think he’s legit there, why not?

Only of you feel he'll be elite there. You don't want to take a player from a position where he's elite and move him to a position where he's merely above average.

[RashanGary]

Only of you feel he'll be elite there. You don't want to take a player from a position where he's elite and move him to a position where he's merely above average.

An above average RT makes about the same as a top 3 guard. Tackles are just harder to find. Big guys are rare. Big guys who move really well are the rarest. I think I'd rather lock the tackle spots down and count on Gute to be able to find guards in the 3rd-5th rounds

[KYPack]

Jenkins is a solid talent. He is near elite at LG right now. But a solid RT with sound pass blocking skills is always the way to go. Establishing bookend Tackles is the preference. But keeping a tackle tandem is almost impossible. Tennessee invested two high draft picks and formed the NFLs best Oline with twin T's Taylor Lewan and Jack Conklin. They lost Conklin to FA in the off-season when he signed with Cleveland. With Jenkins still on his rookie deal, I say move him to RT. Having solid bookends is the goal of any NFL team. We probably can't move Jenkins this season bc of our injury situation. But I think 2021 will see Jenkins moved to RT.

[Joemailman]

I get the RT over G argument. But I've always liked the idea of having one side of your offensive line being truly dominant. Guys you can run behind even they know you're going to run. Always was impressed what the Raiders could do behind Shell and Upshaw. Yeah, I'm that old.

[RashanGary]

I get the RT over G argument. But I've always liked the idea of having one side of your offensive line being truly dominant. Guys you can run behind even they know you're going to run. Always was impressed what the Raiders could do behind Shell and Upshaw. Yeah, I'm that old.

I see this too! Rodgers is really good at knowing the strength of his line. When bakh and Baluga were young, Sutton/lindsleytretter/Lang were beasts. AR would Step forward, then back..... Witb bakh and bulaga as the strength, hed sit back a little longer and avoid stepping up as much. If the left side was inpenetrable, hed find a way to count on that and put his focus on dodging the right side uncertainty. Rodgers has enough pocket presence to play with different styles of OL, seamlessly. A star left side would be interesting to see how AR uses that to his pocket creativity advantage

[RashanGary]

If they can make a stud interior, Rodgers definitely knows how to make the tackles job easier.... I'd be ok either way, but finding a servicable tackle is hard so I'd lean a touch that way.

[Bretsky]

OL holding up fine

[RashanGary]

OL holding up fine

Yep! Get Turner healthy, then Lindsey and hopefully 69 never goes down!

But we had some cupcake games for the OL. It’s about to get real next week. Hopefully we’re close to 100%. I’d rather see Wagner at tackle than Turner.

Bakh/Jenkins/(Patrick or Lindsey)/Turner/Wagner

I like it like that.

[George Cumby]

Bakh owned his man on Jones' third td.

[run pMc]

Only of you feel he'll be elite there. You don't want to take a player from a position where he's elite and move him to a position where he's merely above average.

Agree. You put Jenkins next to Bahk and your left side is rock solid. Good-to-great OTs are hard to find but if Jenkins is the next Steve Hutchinson you keep him at G and get by with the Wagner-Turner-Overdrive takin care of business on the right for now. I was banging the drum that they needed to draft a tackle (WR too ugh) and thought they took Runyan as a backup/swing tackle until all the guard talk started up. Maybe Nijman can figure it out, but their tackle situation is not great looking ahead. That's especially true if Bahk doesn't get a new contract with GB.

[bobblehead]

You're talking like RT is the more important position of the two. With Aaron Rodgers at QB, it absolutely is not. Rodgers has always eluded the outside rush consistently. The Guard positions also are more important in the running game.

We've had this whole discussion about Bakhtiari, and after watching game film more closely, I walked back my criticism of him a little bit, but what really stood out in what I saw was the number of times Bakhtiari made his block, and the runs got stuffed anyway. I didn't specifically watch the right side, but I assume the same tackle kick out block is most often used there - and we don't often gain much running off tackle right either. Over Guard and Center is where most of the success has been.

I'll grant you this. In the Flower system, having Bakh cut down pursuit, and Jenkins at LG, Jones busted a big one left/inside. I'm not against having Jenkins at LG as long as we are solid at RT. Wagner seems to be doing the job.

[bobblehead]

Jenkins is a solid talent. He is near elite at LG right now. But a solid RT with sound pass blocking skills is always the way to go. Establishing bookend Tackles is the preference. But keeping a tackle tandem is almost impossible. Tennessee invested two high draft picks and formed the NFLs best Oline with twin T's Taylor Lewan and Jack Conklin. They lost Conklin to FA in the off-season when he signed with Cleveland. With Jenkins still on his rookie deal, I say move him to RT. Having solid bookends is the goal of any NFL team. We probably can't move Jenkins this season bc of our injury situation. But I think 2021 will see Jenkins moved to RT.

Yea, this.

[bobblehead]

Agree. You put Jenkins next to Bahk and your left side is rock solid. Good-to-great OTs are hard to find but if Jenkins is the next Steve Hutchinson you keep him at G and get by with the Wagner-Turner-Overdrive takin care of business on the right for now. I was banging the drum that they needed to draft a tackle (WR too ugh) and thought they took Runyan as a backup/swing tackle until all the guard talk started up. Maybe Nijman can figure it out, but their tackle situation is not great looking ahead. That's especially true if Bahk doesn't get a new contract with GB.

No team has a great looking Tackle situation if a starter falls. Just the nature of the beast. I'm hoping for Nijman, but without preseason I have nothing to go on other than his athletic gifts and size. I need to see him play again....but not yet!!