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  • #61
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    For years I heard that Favre was the GOAT, and we were unlikely to see another as great in our lifetimes.
    Now I am told the Rodgers is the GOAT.
    Did a GOAT replace a GOAT?
    Have Packer fans been blessed with a small herd of GOATS?

    ... or, is Rodgers the GOAT only until another VERY GOOD quarterback appears in Green Bay and is designated by fans as the new GOAT?


    I think I followed that but really not sure. Ask me in 5 minutes
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    Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Patler View Post
      For years I heard that Favre was the GOAT, and we were unlikely to see another as great in our lifetimes.
      Now I am told the Rodgers is the GOAT.
      Did a GOAT replace a GOAT?
      Have Packer fans been blessed with a small herd of GOATS?

      ... or, is Rodgers the GOAT only until another VERY GOOD quarterback appears in Green Bay and is designated by fans as the new GOAT?
      We are all just sheep following goats.

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      • #63
        Packer fans will Love the next GOAT.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #64
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          Talk about changing someones narrative. Everyone on this site thinks Rodgers is an all time great. We also think spending on things like defense and OL matter more than the 3rd option in touches does...especially when the 3rd and 4th options are solid players who both had good games.

          edit: Did you watch the Bengles game Thur? Burrow had a mountain of weapons (although AJ looked slow). He has a 2nd round rookie, fastest man in history, superb multi talented RB and 2 other solid WR...but he was on his ass or running for his life a lot. Give me a dominant OL any day and I'll build a good offense around it.

          Edit2: Look at a scrub like Ryan Tannehill. Give him a great OL and run game and suddenly he looks pretty damn good.
          I'm with bobble on this one. I'd rather have a stud defensive player or OL than ok #3WR. Having offensive skill players matters, don't get me wrong. If you have a giant turnstile at OL like CIN does, it might not matter though. A dominant OL can make an offense unstoppable.

          Tannehill has been on fire since last season -- I think something like 9 straight regular season games with 2+ passing TDs. For a guy who was considered a borderline starter he's done very well. He's a good fit in TEN's offense, but he's more a game manager with the OL, Derrick Henry, and a couple of good receivers (Davis, Brown) to lean on.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by run pMc View Post
            I'm with bobble on this one. I'd rather have a stud defensive player or OL than ok #3WR. Having offensive skill players matters, don't get me wrong. If you have a giant turnstile at OL like CIN does, it might not matter though. A dominant OL can make an offense unstoppable.

            Tannehill has been on fire since last season -- I think something like 9 straight regular season games with 2+ passing TDs. For a guy who was considered a borderline starter he's done very well. He's a good fit in TEN's offense, but he's more a game manager with the OL, Derrick Henry, and a couple of good receivers (Davis, Brown) to lean on.
            So we’re comparing Ryan Tannehill to Aaron Rodgers now?

            This whole thing has gotten that stupid?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
              So we’re comparing Ryan Tannehill to Aaron Rodgers now?

              This whole thing has gotten that stupid?
              I think what he is saying is that look at what a good Run game and Oline is doing for a mediocre QB when we have an all time great.
              Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                For years I heard that Favre was the GOAT, and we were unlikely to see another as great in our lifetimes.
                Now I am told the Rodgers is the GOAT.
                Did a GOAT replace a GOAT?
                Have Packer fans been blessed with a small herd of GOATS?

                ... or, is Rodgers the GOAT only until another VERY GOOD quarterback appears in Green Bay and is designated by fans as the new GOAT?
                I believe you are referring to Jordan GOAT Love.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                  I think what he is saying is that look at what a good Run game and Oline is doing for a mediocre QB when we have an all time great.
                  That’s wonderful. We’re not going to be playing the Queens or the Lions in the playoffs. The Lafluer offense is nice and the Packers have “Almost All the Pieces” but they are one short. One big one at that. On top of that there is almost zero after Adams, Lazard and MVS in reserve. To think these three guys will all stay healthy for the next 14 games would be foolish.

                  You bring in and add a “No.2 Option” and now you have an offense that can score 40 on anybody in the league and also helps safeguard you from injury. It also puts Lazard and MVS in even more favorable roles.

                  If you want a Legit shot at another Super Bowl trophy coming back to Titletown this must be done. It’s that simple.

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                  • #69
                    Right now, I'm more concerned about the status of the o-line than I am about the receiving group. Taylor is gone, Turner is gimpy, Wagner is living on borrowed time and Linsley is who-knows what.

                    They managed to get by without Adams for a while last year and are probably more equipped to do so this year than last. Creatively using a deeper and more varied running game, the variations provided by a guy with the skills and smarts of Daguara, a full season with Ervin, and the greater familiarity of the offense by everyone, including the no-name receivers but especially Rodgers running the show can generate an adequate passing attack; but not if Rodgers is on his back or sitting on the sidelines

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by GB-Brandon View Post
                      That’s wonderful. We’re not going to be playing the Queens or the Lions in the playoffs. The Lafluer offense is nice and the Packers have “Almost All the Pieces” but they are one short. One big one at that. On top of that there is almost zero after Adams, Lazard and MVS in reserve. To think these three guys will all stay healthy for the next 14 games would be foolish.

                      You bring in and add a “No.2 Option” and now you have an offense that can score 40 on anybody in the league and also helps safeguard you from injury. It also puts Lazard and MVS in even more favorable roles.

                      If you want a Legit shot at another Super Bowl trophy coming back to Titletown this must be done. It’s that simple.

                      [/QUOTE]
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Right now, I'm more concerned about the status of the o-line than I am about the receiving group. Taylor is gone, Turner is gimpy, Wagner is living on borrowed time and Linsley is who-knows what.

                        They managed to get by without Adams for a while last year and are probably more equipped to do so this year than last. Creatively using a deeper and more varied running game, the variations provided by a guy with the skills and smarts of Daguara, a full season with Ervin, and the greater familiarity of the offense by everyone, including the no-name receivers but especially Rodgers running the show can generate an adequate passing attack; but not if Rodgers is on his back or sitting on the sidelines

                        I don’t necessarily disagree with any of this but against “Playoff Teams” is where it gets dicey. Matchups change and things that worked against the mediocre don’t work as well or work at all. A lot of questions will be answered this weekend. The offensive line is and will continue to be a plug and play situation as I suggested. IMO, Gute could of done better here but at least he drafted a few OL to help off-set the situation and mitigate emergency. He hasn’t drafted a receiver in 3 years!

                        At Receiver or “Playmaker” their are serious concerns moving forward. Funchess opted out. It’s hard telling if St. Brown can even physically play in the NFL at this point. Sternberger is trending in the wrong direction with red flags all over the place. There will most certainty be more injuries moving forward. MVS is this “Hot and Cold Bi-Polar like commodity”. Lazard is a possession receiver. I think overall they had 6 drops somewhere by mid 3rd quarter. This is not the benchmark of success. It’s a benchmark of “Potential Fraud”.

                        Somewhere along the line they need to take a chance. With the way everything is shaping up there would not be a more perfect time to do it. I’m sure Rodgers wouldn’t get upset either if they did it. I will not guarantee a Super Bowl by making the move but I can guarantee we will not win a Super Bowl without the move so there you go. If the Packers somehow win a Super Bowl with this group of receivers etc etc then it would be the Packers greatness accomplishment of all time and Rodgers should immediately be considered the GOAT widely on a national level for this accomplishment!!!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
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                          Yeah, because I’m so classless!!! You know what? Gute’s hand shouldn’t have to be forced to go get this team what it Fucken needs! This is on Gute!!!!
                          Last edited by GB-Brandon; 09-21-2020, 04:59 PM. Reason: Typo

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                          • #73
                            Updated WR PFF Rankings for season after Lions Game.

                            1. Devante Adams 80.4
                            2. Tyler Ervin. 64.3
                            3. Allen Lazard 63.2
                            4. MVS. 57.2

                            And Aaron Rodgers is of course “95.6”.

                            This perfectly illustrates what’s going on and where we can see a potential drop off coming against better competition with our obvious “3rd Wheels”. They are even doing what they are doing now because we have Aaron Rodgers as our QB. This will catch up with the Packers one way or another. There should be massive urgency at this point to upgrade as quickly as possible based on what Rodgers has shown to the eye and where all things are at with the Packers and in the NFC as a whole.

                            I’m not sure how anyone can even dispute this based on what are thought to be legitimate ratings and what’s been seen on the field of play.

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                            • #74
                              If we add

                              Mike Tonyan 57.9 &
                              Jace Sternberger 37.5

                              The Eye sore or Black eye just get bigger!

                              This evil Tyrant Brain Gutekunst needs to be removed immediately if he does not address this.

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                              • #75
                                A Cesspool of mediocrity that Rodgers has to somehow win a title with. The OL is the least of the worries with cast of mediocrity outside Adams and Jones!!!

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