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  • #61
    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Check out the screenshots. 21 Savage didn't line up in Cover 2 presnap. Every DB was in man instead for 23.

    I am correct.
    What man is the post safety covering, dimbulb?

    This is a cover three zone.

    Alexander Savage and Amos correctly executed their assignments perfectly.

    I guess you think the only zone is a cover two.

    This is a cover 3 with Amos the post safely.

    The 3 deep guys were in thirds with Alexander covering the short zone.

    pass incomplete

    just like your football knowledge.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by KYPack View Post

      pass incomplete

      just like your football knowledge.
      oof

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      • #63
        Sorry, Kentucky, you don't know what you're taking about. I'm guessing the last time you coached futbol, the rock was as fat as the rugby ball and the forward pass was illegal.

        I posted pre and post snaps screen shots. Cover 3, the "free" most often lines up at deep center field. In the pre snap pic, Amos lines up in Cover 2. Sure, sometimes the call is Cover 3 and the free lines up presnap in Cover 2 with the aim of confusing the offense. But as the 2nd pic shows, Amos doesn't run to center field post snap, as he should in cover 3. Also Cover 3 is zone. If it's cover 3, why the fuck is everyone but 23 playing man? Additionally, if it's Cover 3, 23's assignment should be the outside third, not the flat.

        Call was man, most likely Cover2 man. 23 gambled wrong but was bailed out by 21 Savage.

        Never question my futbol acumen again. I shutdown Darren Charles in a high school futbol game, after all.

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        • #64
          No fan boy.
          This was a zone.

          See Savage bailing back to his assignment.

          Amos is the post safety.

          Alexander covering his area.

          Savage is bailing to provide deep support in that zone

          All the people you have circled as being in man coverage are iso d on their assignment in this zone cover.

          How did both Savage and Amos end up in deep coverage on this play?

          Devine intervention?

          Cover 2 man is used by Pettine, but rarely.

          This is a zone and you are a fan boy that never took one step on a football field

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          • #65
            Don't you think they may be disguising their coverage?
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #66
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
              Don't you think they may be disguising their coverage?
              One might think a different look used to mask a coverage from an excellent ten-year NFL quarterback might be enough to confuse some keyboard warrior.

              It sure confuses me, I look at the screen grab, "Yup! Eleven guys on Green! It's a Defense!"

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              • #67
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                Don't you think they may be disguising their coverage?
                Or possibly miscommunication on the call/check?
                Originally posted by 3irty1
                This is museum quality stupidity.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                  One might think a different look used to mask a coverage from an excellent ten-year NFL quarterback might be enough to confuse some keyboard warrior.

                  It sure confuses me, I look at the screen grab, "Yup! Eleven guys on Green! It's a Defense!"
                  I don't know if it always is a defence this year. Sometimes our d looks offensive
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                  George Orwell

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                    I don't know if it always is a defence this year. Sometimes our d looks offensive
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                      I don't know if it always is a defence this year. Sometimes our d looks offensive
                      lol

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                        Absolutely Run.

                        Very few teams ever play the old classic man to man/cover 1 anymore. Also gone the way of the dodo is the old cover 2 with both safeties over in support of the corners. Most teams play 2 high safeties (NE) or the 3 high like Pettine.

                        RE announcers. These guys see a defensive guy in an iso situation and tell the viewers that the defensive team was in a man to man defense. No, the player in question was doing his job in a complicated defense but the base defense was a zone. So the announcer and 98% of the audience thinks the D was a man to man.

                        Not so grasshopper.

                        There is an ex-player or coach in the booth that knows the announcer is a boob, but they aren't going to go on a tangent explaining the finer points and interrupt the broadcast.
                        Something I wasn't aware of to be honest, but it makes sense now that you say it. With the cover 2 gone and the deep roamers being more the norm it explains the desire for safeties that run 4.4 but tackle for shit. Mix in the ILB/S hybrids and defenses have adjusted to offenses using RB and TE more in the passing game. Teams are using erasers deep and hybrids shallow.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #72
                          I think Raven Greene taking more of Will Redmon's snaps is a underrated way for the Packers defense to get better. He played more in week 4, and it's the best the defense has looked this year.
                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                            I think Raven Greene taking more of Will Redmon's snaps is a underrated way for the Packers defense to get better. He played more in week 4, and it's the best the defense has looked this year.
                            He started as a hybrid saftey then moves to free whene savage was hurt then to slot corner when Sullivan was hurt. Talk about helping out!
                            All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                            George Orwell

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                              I think Raven Greene taking more of Will Redmon's snaps is a underrated way for the Packers defense to get better. He played more in week 4, and it's the best the defense has looked this year.
                              Yea, I pointed out last year how much our D regressed when Raven got injured. And then he got hurt early this year, but as he sees the field more they seem to perform better. Coincidence? I doubt it.
                              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                                He started as a hybrid saftey then moves to free whene savage was hurt then to slot corner when Sullivan was hurt. Talk about helping out!
                                https://www.packers.com/news/raven-g...gainst-atlanta
                                Nice article up. I didn't realize he played slot at all in that game (or was capable of it to be honest). He is truly an under rated player.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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