AARON JONES----WHERE IS HE IN THE RB TIERS ? ?

[Bretsky]

I try to think of RB's in the NFL that are as dynamic or more dynamic than Aaron Jones. Who is clearly better ? From what I can see he can do things as a receiver that no other running backs can do other than Mccaffrey and Kumara. Am I overestimating Aaron Jones ?

As a RB I would add Dalvin Cook, maybe Sequan Barkley, Ezekial Eliott, as explosive guys that are as good or better runners.

But as an all around package.............who is really better than Aaron Jones ?

Mccaffrey and Kumara can do it all and probably better than AJO
D Cook and Barkley and Eliott are maybe better runners but AJO might be a better receiver

SO WHOLE PACKAGE.............WHO IS REALLY BETTER ?

It seems to me that Rodgers, Adams, and AJO are our version of Aikman, Irvin,and Emitt....of course.....we lack the defense that Dallas has. But those are three dynamic weapons.

What say you rats ?

Am I grossly overestimating Aaron Jones, or is he one of the top 5, maybe 6-8 RB's in the NFL and a PRIME TIME PLAYMAKER ????

[Joemailman]

I think he's in the 6-10 range. I'd probably put McCaffrey, Kamara, Cook, Henry, Elliott and Barkley ahead of him.

[call_me_ishmael]

My opinion is generally aligned with Joe's here. That boy in Minnesota is really special though.

[texaspackerbacker]

The only one I would maybe take ahead of Jones is Dalvin Cook, and that is only if you disregard injury history and attitude. Overestimating him, Bretsky, try underestimating.

[RashanGary]

I think he's in the 6-10 range. I'd probably put McCaffrey, Kamara, Cook, Henry, Elliott and Barkley ahead of him.

Jacobs, Chubb for sure, I like Ronald Jones in Tampa better, and Mixon too. So top 10 for me.


Not a great pass protector. Awful in short yardage. Otherwise would be closer to the top.

[RashanGary]

I think my favorite (for this Rodgers lead team) would be McCaffrey. He's a full fledged 100 catch type WR, he runs every type of running play well. He blocks. He's a QB's best friend like Nelson with his adjustments. Deguara at full potential and McCaffrey and our offense would be the best offense in the history of football right now.

[Bretsky]

Jacobs, Chubb for sure, I like Ronald Jones in Tampa better, and Mixon too. So top 10 for me.


Not a great pass protector. Awful in short yardage. Otherwise would be closer to the top.

OK, I'm waving my arms like Cris Carter and yelling "COME ON MAN" You'd REALLY take those guys over Jones or are you just getting ready to justify his leaving (I'm not convinced that's going to happen)

Ronald Jones is not better; he's a marginal starter with speed. They feature Fornette more in some games. Look at his stats the last season or two. For a while some labeled him a bust He's got some talent but he flashes and then disappears. If not for last week he wouldn't be on anybody's radar and he'd not the receiver Jones is

Mixon's has been a disappointment for the Bengals. He's not explosive can't stay on the field. His college pedigree is better but not his pro one up to this point.

Jacobs might be a better rusher; but he's junk as a receiver and not remotely the dual threat Jones is. I really like Jacobs; I might take him ahead of Jones in a normal offense but he doesn't offer the dual thread Jones does. But as a player he might rate higher than Jones and you could justify that, or maybe will be able to soon. He's a stud

I need to see more of Chubb; I love him as a rusher. Again, in our offense Jones offers a dual threat that can sometimes carry a team. I'm unsure if Chubb is near the receiver Jones is

[Bretsky]

I think my favorite (for this Rodgers lead team) would be McCaffrey. He's a full fledged 100 catch type WR, he runs every type of running play well. He blocks. He's a QB's best friend like Nelson with his adjustments. Deguara at full potential and McCaffrey and our offense would be the best offense in the history of football right now.

I'm not sure if I'd like Mccaffrey more or Kumara; both would be fantastic in our offense. Barkley would as well but he's been hurt too much

Injuries aside, in our offense Jones might be 4

[Bretsky]

I think my favorite (for this Rodgers lead team) would be McCaffrey. He's a full fledged 100 catch type WR, he runs every type of running play well. He blocks. He's a QB's best friend like Nelson with his adjustments. Deguara at full potential and McCaffrey and our offense would be the best offense in the history of football right now.

Deguara hasn't earned anything yet; hell most don't even know how to spell his name

[RashanGary]

Deguara hasn't earned anything yet; hell most don't even know how to spell his name

Defenses have a hard time covering the whole field. You hear defensive players and coordinators talking all the time about the strength of a call and the weakness of a defensive call. Typically coordinators take away the big play first and then try to take out whatever a team does best after that. Deguara and any player like Lazard, Tonyan, Jones, Williams, even Mercedes and Erv in different ways.... When you have a guy like 12 and guys who can contribute to the run and pass equally well, a defense cant be right. 12 will attack the weakness every time assuming he has the players who can execute both run and pass plays.

We're kind of on an all time great offensive season for Packer football. It's been run/pass proficiency combined with 12 making sure we’re in the right play to exploit each defense. As 12 ages, the versatility to attack in different ways vs just scrambling and passing really is making him better and allowing him to lean on his mental edge more than his legs as his career winds down

Deguara (FB skill set AND te receiving skillset) is kind of a dream weapon for such an offense. So is McCaffrey.

[RashanGary]

12 is playing chess when everyone else is playing checkers. But he needs versatile pieces like a queen so he has multiple ways to attack depending on what the defense is trying to do. The days of just line up and pass and then scramble around when it breaks down are over. Running the ball is so much better for an aging QB than him doing the running

[Upnorth]

Was Sunday a chess day? Sure didn't feel like chess.

[RashanGary]

Was Sunday a chess day? Sure didn't feel like chess.

It was a cold and gusty wind day that took away from the passing game. 12 prides himself on being able to throw in any condition. Maybe he and Lalfleur were over confident in the pass game that day. I thought Rodgers threw with good accuracy and catchable balls down field, but the shorter ones, the ones with less heat on them were seemed harder to aim or adjust wind factor to.

Surprises me to see one game make such an impact on someone's viewpoint. I tent to look at the whole picture, not snapshots.

[run pMc]

He's squarely in the top 6- 10. McCaffrey, Kamara, Cook, Barkley, Miles Sanders, Elliott, Aaron Jones, maybe Kareem Hunt, Clyde E-H, Joe Mixon might squeeze in there. DeAndre Swift probably makes this list by end of year.
Melvin Gordon? Mostert? SF and Denver use backs by committee, but you could maybe put them in that list.
I like Josh Jacobs but he's not polished as a receiver yet.
Leveon Bell, Frank Gore, David Johnson, and Adrian Peterson are past their primes.
I like Chubb but IDK if he's top 10. You can talk about injuries but Jones missed a lot of games his first few years.

[texaspackerbacker]

Sheeeesh! A lot of negativist crap being spewed in this thread. We need to retain Jones - period.