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CBS has 3 ILB in the top 32 and 8 in the top 64.
A bunch of them can be considered for the 28-32nd pick.
Might be our year, FINALLY, to get an ILB. Barnes looks like a solid overall player, but in an ideal world a super fast linebacker would bring our defense to a new level.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Originally posted by RashanGary View PostCBS has 3 ILB in the top 32 and 8 in the top 64.
A bunch of them can be considered for the 28-32nd pick.
Might be our year, FINALLY, to get an ILB. Barnes looks like a solid overall player, but in an ideal world a super fast linebacker would bring our defense to a new level.
I would agree
But I don't think we value ILB
Patrick Queen was there for us this yearTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I haven't paid much attention outside of the Packers this year. How has Queen been? I remember he wasn't starting at some point. His snap % says that has changed?Originally posted by Bretsky View PostI would agree
But I don't think we value ILB
Patrick Queen was there for us this year
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...Q/QueePa00.htm
The advanced metrics section shows him being pretty bad in coverage.Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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The 2nd-round tender gives the Packers ROFR on any offer sheet, a 2nd round pick if he leaves, and is less than $4mil. That's probably what he gets slapped with, and then they try to work out a longer-term deal, unless they already have something in the works now.Originally posted by gbgary View Posti think OTC has tonyan's valuation at over $7m per. he just might be the next guy extended.
On the other hand, that many QBs going ahead of us in the first round helps to push the other positional talent down toward our pick or our feasible trade range.Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostGreat year to pick a QB in the first. Best class in a few years.
Lawrence, Fields, Lance, Wilson, Trask all look like potential players. Would have rather taken the QB this year.
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Originally posted by Zool View PostI haven't paid much attention outside of the Packers this year. How has Queen been? I remember he wasn't starting at some point. His snap % says that has changed?
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...Q/QueePa00.htm
The advanced metrics section shows him being pretty bad in coverage.
I think it's fair to say he's bee OK so far. But ok for a Raven LB is better IMO than what we have
He's no Kenneth Murray....and the past ILB's I craved in Devin Bush or Roquan Smith or Devin White....of course....all of those would have required trade ups.
So I'm not sure he's worth an additional pick; but IMO neither was the Love Machine
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TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Originally posted by Bretsky View PostI think it's fair to say he's bee OK so far. But ok for a Raven LB is better IMO than what we have
He's no Kenneth Murray....and the past ILB's I craved in Devin Bush or Roquan Smith or Devin White....of course....all of those would have required trade ups.
So I'm not sure he's worth an additional pick; but IMO neither was the Love Machine
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Own up. You just got Patlerized by Zool."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Nick Bolton looks like an interesting prospect at pick 32. Fast, tough, big hitter, good in coverage, explosive.
I'm a fan of Barnes so far. Kamal Martin too, really.
Even if both guys we already have pan out, I'm sure Bolton could work on the field as the Nickle backer as a rookie and obviously for depth too.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I know it's early, but Bolton might be more of a 2nd round pick. My early favorite for Packers 1st round pick is.....Originally posted by RashanGary View PostNick Bolton looks like an interesting prospect at pick 32. Fast, tough, big hitter, good in coverage, explosive.
I'm a fan of Barnes so far. Kamal Martin too, really.
Even if both guys we already have pan out, I'm sure Bolton could work on the field as the Nickle backer as a rookie and obviously for depth too.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/j...ele/EswRPRGo3p
JAY TUFELE
Pros: Jay aligns at defensive tackle for the Trojan even front defense. He aligns at the 1 shade and the 3 tech for the Trojan defense and is a capable projection to either role at the pro level as well. He is a good athlete with good quickness, balance on the interior and body control. In the passing game, he is sufficient to generate pressure. Tufele is an explosive athlete who uses his powerful hands to defeat interior linemen inside and get to the QB. He does a good job pushing the depth of the pocket as an interior rusher and has an effective bull rush, as well. In the run game he is very good at the point of attack. He comes off the ball hard, defeats his blocker, shows good agility to get through trash and finds the football. He is extremely difficult to single block when his pad level is good and flashes dominance in both the run and the pass game.
Cons: This is a player who has some dominant reps over the course of the game. He can afford to be more consistent at playing with good pad level. He has a swim move that he uses inside, however, he can afford to develop a legitimate counter and complimentary move as well. Overall, this is a very good football player who simply needs consistency to take the next step and possibly leap into the conversation of the first two rounds of the NFL Draft.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI know it's early, but Bolton might be more of a 2nd round pick. My early favorite for Packers 1st round pick is.....
https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/j...ele/EswRPRGo3p
DT is my favorite position in football. I'd never complain about this one. Would be cool to keep Adams on a cheap second contract too.
Clark/Lancaster
Keke/Lowry
Rookie first rounder/Adams
I'm cool with that depth. Would probably make Barnes and Martin better in their second years to have a deep stable of hogs in front of them.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I was not a fan of giving up a R4 to get Love. I was not a fan of the Love pick either. That's done though.
R2-4 are the heart of your draft and often where your surprise stars and key contributors come from; it's generally a bad policy to trade away those picks without a very good reason. I'm not convinced Love was.
As for Barnes and Martin, they very well could be long term players for GB. Their injury histories (Barnes has been hurt a lot; he's on the smaller side and likely to wear down faster, Martin has had injuries to both knees) are a concern and you'd like to see one more player there. Kirksey is ok, but I'm actually not sure he's playing the same role now that he was in CLE for Pettine. They should be able to find a younger, healthier, and cheaper alternative if they try. If Burks panned out then he'd be a key part of the rotation and they wouldn't have brought Kirksey in at all.
I would not be against taking a good DL in R1 as long as they can provide some push and help KClark out. Lowry is a try hard guy but he's not getting it done and once again they can find younger, cheaper and likely better production.
Mt.Adams is worth a vet minimum at best; the guy can't stay healthy, when he is, he's at the bottom of the rotation. Athletic guy, but he hasn't really done much to get excited about in... 4 years? I think this off season they can find better. In 45 games he has 44 tackles (22 solo) and 1.5 sacks; why would you bring him back? There were several other DL picked after him (Troy Hendrickson, Deatrick Wise, Grover Stewart) who have developed and contributed far more. Tyler Lancaster is better than Adams. Basically, they can get same production from a UDFA.
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Some guys take a little bit to really get going. Taller guys especially. I see a lot of 6’4” - 6’7” lineman who don't really hit their stride until year 4, 5, 6. And I've seen quite a few play for a really long time. Once a long, big guy learns how to play with that leverage, they last a long time.
Adams has had a horrible 3 years and now one year of flashing as a decent rotational guy. But his arrow is kind of pointing up. He looked better this year than last so the trend is upward. I wouldn't mind a small contract to see if it keeps going that way.
That said, DL, especially DT is my favorite position in football. I'll never be disappointed in a DL. Keke is coming on. But I'll take 3 more and still feel like I want 2 more. I would never stop taking DL or OL for that matter.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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