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  • #61
    Ted Thompson drafted receivers high for several years in a row with great success. I really don’t know what happened where a lot of Packer fans hear the words “Draft a receiver” and immediately go into this form of denial mode!! It’s just gotten beyond old.

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    • #62
      Do we think the Packers know what they have in Love yet? If you read some of Andrew Brandt's content, I view it as him suggesting the Packers knew Rodgers was going to be very good as early as his first year. Of course, he's an outlier as far as talent.

      I seem to recall there is a legend going around that during Mahomes rookie year on the bench, someone called John Dorsey and asked what they had in Mahomes and he said he'd be the MVP of the league the next year. So clearly they knew early. Of course, he's an outlier as far as talent.

      I wonder if the Packers have a general idea of what Love projects to at this point. It's essentially been a season, albeit one without a proper off-season.

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      • #63
        Love is basically a lose/lose deal. If he is a big nothing, we wasted a draft pick and we won't get much in trade for him. If he has some ability, we won't see it in Green Bay, we still won't get very much for him in trade, and he potentially could be a decent player somewhere else. But who cares - IF they have the good sense to keep Aaron Rodgers around for a lot more years. 10 might be an exaggeration, but 7 or 8 certainly is not.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          Love is basically a lose/lose deal. If he is a big nothing, we wasted a draft pick and we won't get much in trade for him. If he has some ability, we won't see it in Green Bay, we still won't get very much for him in trade, and he potentially could be a decent player somewhere else. But who cares - IF they have the good sense to keep Aaron Rodgers around for a lot more years. 10 might be an exaggeration, but 7 or 8 certainly is not.
          Dude is 37 now. I have seen 1 qb play at aboce replacemebt level after 40. 7 or 8 most certainly is an exagerration.
          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

          George Orwell

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
            Dude is 37 now. I have seen 1 qb play at aboce replacemebt level after 40. 7 or 8 most certainly is an exagerration.
            Yep. 12 is in the last couple great year's of his prime. If they still LOVE Love after three seasons of him on the bench and think he can do it, I'll be happy to trade 40 year old Rodgers in the last year.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
              Love is basically a lose/lose deal. If he is a big nothing, we wasted a draft pick and we won't get much in trade for him. If he has some ability, we won't see it in Green Bay, we still won't get very much for him in trade, and he potentially could be a decent player somewhere else. But who cares - IF they have the good sense to keep Aaron Rodgers around for a lot more years. 10 might be an exaggeration, but 7 or 8 certainly is not.
              Didn't the Patriots get a second-rounder for Jeanine Garrapolo, who'd been a lower-round pick and had shown only flashes while piloting the Genius Hoody team that many people thought a grandmother could QB, given Hoody's supposed genius?

              If teams think Love is a future star and he flashes some of that in preseason say, a year and a half from now, the Packers could get a good haul for him.

              Or they could trade Rodgers and go with the kid.

              It's only a wasted pick if Love looks like he's going to be a pedestrian NFL QB.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                You are really sounding like a pussbag lately ))) Be pissed like me; Gutebag had no business moving up unless he got his guy. We don't even know it was Aiyuk. Maybe he wanted the love machine. I refuse to let my madness go on that one !

                Sidenote; Tee Higgins and Claypool would've looked pretty good in green n gold
                He wanted Love. You don't make that move hoping, you make it when you know what you are getting. Gutes is proving his chops lately. Maybe he was playing 3D chess. This WR class is the second in a row thats really deep and strong. Maybe he knew he had enough WR talent to get by one more year and wait. With a handful of teams loading up on young WR last year, its likely someone slips through the cracks this year. Teams that took WR in 1st and 2nd round last year might be a little hesitant to grab one this year. Its possible a guy who should go 15-20 slips to 32 this year.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  He wanted Love. You don't make that move hoping, you make it when you know what you are getting. Gutes is proving his chops lately. Maybe he was playing 3D chess. This WR class is the second in a row thats really deep and strong. Maybe he knew he had enough WR talent to get by one more year and wait. With a handful of teams loading up on young WR last year, its likely someone slips through the cracks this year. Teams that took WR in 1st and 2nd round last year might be a little hesitant to grab one this year. Its possible a guy who should go 15-20 slips to 32 this year.
                  I would love to go with you on this sentiment, Bobble. But I suspect that again he will take no wide receivers and we'll all be wondering WTF - again.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    I would love to go with you on this sentiment, Bobble. But I suspect that again he will take no wide receivers and we'll all be wondering WTF - again.
                    There are probably 5 WR with first round talent this year. Maybe you are right. Maybe he takes my advice and goes out and gets a veteran Cory Davis who is a great run blocker and really good WR who knows the Flower system.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                      There are probably 5 WR with first round talent this year. Maybe you are right. Maybe he takes my advice and goes out and gets a veteran Cory Davis who is a great run blocker and really good WR who knows the Flower system.
                      I feel compelled to add that I also thought his not drafting a wide receiver last year was nearly a crime, and that his draft class was puzzling at best and stupid at worst.

                      Good thing I'm not an NFL GM. I'd be on a par with Dan Snyder or Bob Quinn or Matt Millen.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #71
                        Before this season, when a lot of people had become detractors of Aaron Rodgers, I was saying he should be and probably will be in Green Bay for many years to come. As for it being 7 or 8 years, Brady played fairly decent this year at 43. Rodgers, in addition to being better than general, is a lot more athletic and mobile than Brady. There's no reason to think he can't or won't play to at least the age Brady plays to. Hell, with the rules protecting QBs these days, he could probably play until 50 - although I'm not quite predicting that.

                        As for Love, ideally he plays good in preseason and we can get something decent for him in trade. I really wouldn't bet on that at this point, though.

                        As for drafting a WR, I have to admit to being a little bit upset at last year's draft when we took guys like Love, Dillon, and Deguara instead of any of several WRs who have proved to be starter quality in the NFL. As things have played out, though, it looks like the Packer decision makers had it right. We are fine at WR, and we also should not draft one early this year with a less strong crop of WRs available.
                        What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                          Before this season, when a lot of people had become detractors of Aaron Rodgers, I was saying he should be and probably will be in Green Bay for many years to come. As for it being 7 or 8 years, Brady played fairly decent this year at 43. Rodgers, in addition to being better than general, is a lot more athletic and mobile than Brady. There's no reason to think he can't or won't play to at least the age Brady plays to. Hell, with the rules protecting QBs these days, he could probably play until 50 - although I'm not quite predicting that.

                          As for Love, ideally he plays good in preseason and we can get something decent for him in trade. I really wouldn't bet on that at this point, though.

                          As for drafting a WR, I have to admit to being a little bit upset at last year's draft when we took guys like Love, Dillon, and Deguara instead of any of several WRs who have proved to be starter quality in the NFL. As things have played out, though, it looks like the Packer decision makers had it right. We are fine at WR, and we also should not draft one early this year with a less strong crop of WRs available.
                          Unless love is an average at best qb in three years we trade rodgers and let love shine. If he is above average his career arc will be better than what we have left of 40 yr old rodgers
                          All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                          George Orwell

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                          • #73
                            In that scenario, whether Love is average or even above average, the Packers would go right down the toilet. Picture the Packers right now with an average or even above average QB instead of Rodgers ..... it would be a pretty sorry picture. Rodgers even at 40, even at 42 or 44 will be a whole helluva lot better than that. I just HOPE it is still for the Packers - and I think the Packers leadership has the good sense to realize that. Anybody not believing that, mark this post and rub it into me if I'm wrong.
                            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                            • #74
                              Rodgers

                              20% chance still playing for the Packers at 40
                              0 % chance of playing for the Packers at 42
                              0 % chance of playing in the NFL at 44

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                              • #75
                                I wonder what they’re thinking of Love now? And I wonder if Love is grinding to get better the way 12 did. There is a lot of unknown. Time will tell.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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